The MBT 1303 company car

[Wally]

Check this 1303 out from MBT :eek:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/Andere%20autos/MBT1303.jpg~original

More about the car here:
http://www.mbt-engineering.de/DE/About/vw_k_1303_1.html

[Jim]

What a monster!!!

Honestly, just unbelievable!!!

[evilC]

Veeeerrrrry nice! Did you notice the light weight rear brakes? No discs(rotors)!!!!

[Sandeep]

:shocked: FANTASTIC !!!

Sandeep

[chug_A_bug]

WOW Crazy sexy.... :D

Chris.

[Humble]

Very very nice, I wouldn't mind putting that car through its paces :D I want to know where they get the centre lock hubs. I'd like a set of those for my car.

[Wally]

I want to know where they get the centre lock hubs. I'd like a set of those for my car.

I dunno whats the situation over at your place, but over here, centre lock hubs/wheels are illegal for street use...

Quite a while ago, I had a web-site of a german machining company that made those for porsche hubs.
Anyways, I suspect it will not be cheap whoever makes them.

[petevw]

Those are one of my favorite sets of wheels.

:driving:

Pete

[evilC]

I dunno whats the situation over at your place, but over here, centre lock hubs/wheels are illegal for street use...

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I didn't realise that? Is it a Eurozone regulation or just local to you? There are a mass of old Jaguars and the like that use knock on centre hubs does that mean they are illegal to drive on the road Europe wide or just in the Netherlands?:(

[Wally]

I am sure that cars that originally came with them are perfectly legal, but those crazy tuned cars where some-one has made some contraption to fit his wheels in another way, is another thing (eggageration to make a point).
I am no expert in european legislation, but pretty sure most inspection bodies see it the same way. Its a pity, but that is just what I know.
Unless you present it for some sort of custom approval or type approval, but I am sure most of don't want to go there...
Officially, the power in my car isn't legal either and needs custom approval and I will probably just do that end of the year or sooner if money allows.

[evilC]

Well in general we don't have silly rules about TuV or type approval here. There are construction and use regulations here that we have to abide by but by and large they are all about minimum safety standards and making sure the police can easily identify the car and driver. There is certainly no limits on power or modifications.

VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!!

[Wally]

So you fabricate something on your suspension and it breaks off, causing a major traffic accident with casualties and your insurance company pays out regardless?
Amazing.

[evilC]

The insurance company insures the car it is. You have to tell them it is modified and what you have done. If they have an issue with it they will probably insist on an engineer's report and insure a risk accordingly. The powers that be should not be in a position to ban something just because it has not acheived a beaurocratic level. I am proud to say that Britain's standing in the world of performance cars is one of the highest (see our standing in F1) and that all stems from people having the ability to try out innovations without the need to satisfy the cost and reams of paperwork necessary for type approval. The vast majority of our road going competition cars have non-type approval. It would be a sad day if we had a one size fits all.
Even your system of type approval doesn't ensure safety as it cannot cater for all permutations of components - all it does is stiffle progress.

[Wally]

I totally agree Steve. Its just so amazing that the red tape has not gotten to you guys in the uk. Wish it was like that over here...

[Humble]

Perfectly road legal in the US as far as I know. I know several cars old and new that come with centre locks (ferrari, porsche, lambo, jag...) and I've seen more than a few cars modified to use them (I think 034 motorsports did that). The closest we get to any kind of red tape in here in california where the smog laws are very strict but for classics older the 1976 it doesn't matter.

Now the race car is built as a race car first but is still street legal-ish with insurance and current tags required by a couple classes I compete in. That just means I have to mind my P's and Q's on the road.

[Steve C]

Hi

That car is a work of art.

We have a few rules for road cars that we have to work around down here.

The major ones are,

engine capacity, 2.5 times factory weight for forced induction, a 1303 weighs in at 890kgs, so we can only run 2225cc motor or 3 times factory weight for normally aspirated cars so we can only 2670 cc

wheels go on finished weight of the car, upto 1000 kgs 7 inch rim, 1001kgs to 1100 kgs a 8 inch rim.

I had my old 1302 legally registered and insured with a 2.1 litre WBX motor 17 inch wheels etc

Steve

[dirk.Gysbrechts]

this is the engine sound!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQuU2YwEFw

[volkdent]

I like the air jacks, very cool and sure beats jacking up the car with a floor jack..... oh, wait, they're using a floor jack;)

Jason

[skywalker]

this is the engine sound!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQuU2YwEFw
Sounds like yours Dirk, especially the last 5 seconds. :D

Luuk

[dirk.Gysbrechts]

@Luuk : :lmao: