Kamei Spoiler remake

[cookvw]

hi i was wonderig if anyone is willing to point me in the right direction of getting a "used" Kamei Spoiler. reason i ask is cause i now have the resourses to make these in fiberglass, and sell them here in the USA at a cheaper price than the ABS ones from the father land! i want to make good product, and ive always wanted one of these spoilers, but never had the money to spend for one... so im wanting to get one to pull a mold off of so i can start making my own and sell them on here! i was hoping PHAT73 would get back to me on his broken ones he has cause i can still use that for a mold as well.


thanks for reading and any support on my idea! thanks!

[Bugorsh]

PHAT73's broken spoiler had the entire center section ripped away by a big piece of semi truck tire that he hit at high speed. I may have one that is broken but only at the mounting holes on the upper edge. The reason the ABS ones may be better for the average street car is that they have alot of flexability and can take alot of impact abuse without breaking. They will break however, if pushed beyond their limits. From what I have seen from fiberglass spoilers on other cars, they have a tendency to shatter when hit with much less impact force than the ABS ones would. But if you can just make yourself another or patch a damaged one up, then you might be on the right track.

[Phat73VW]

Hey COOK,

Sorry I hadnt got back to yet but I am having the worst luck with my computer lately due to a pretty serious spyware virus. As Brett stated previously my broken spoiler did rip away when it was hit so all i have left is this 6 inch piece!!
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5736/piecen.jpg

I do however have another one I bought a few years ago on ebay that is over 20 years old and I have been wanting to get it replicated. I just want to know if the mold process would damage it any further as it has a few cracks and I dont want it destroyed ( they literally do not make this one anymore!). Let me know what ya think.
here is the spoiler
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/122/phat1.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9936/sideshot.jpg

[vdubzack]

I hope thet you dont have that darn Windows Police Pro Had to pay McAfee $90 bucks to get rid of it.

[Phat73VW]

That exactly what I have. Totally annoying!!

[NO_H2O]

Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.

[Komet]

That exactly what I have. Totally annoying!!Sort of off topic, but my dad just had this one and I fixed it this way:

-Open the windows police pro folder in program files and find the windowspolicepro.exe. You can't delete it yet because it's running.

-Open Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del, or right click the taskbar) and go to Processes, and find windowspolicepro.exe. Select it, and end process.

-QUICKLY delete the windowspolicepro.exe in program files. There's a delay in between the program finding out it has been stopped and it restarting itself. Delete the rest of the folder at your leisure.

Then, run the antivirus of your choice to mend the registry hack they've got running, and you'll be good to go.

[Phat73VW]

Thanks for the help but when i tried to open my task manager it says that my administrater disabled it. Its my comp and i didnt disable anything. I cant even get into my add/remove hardware screen. The windows police file is there but its still running cause i cant get into my task manager! :mad:

[cookvw]

well ive done some searcing, and i think im going to build them outta FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic). the process is the same as regular fiber glass, but flexes like abs plastic!

phat73vw:
no, the spoiler will not be damaged at all in the mold process! if you want ill PM you my number so we can talk about it in futher detail! im all about making these and sellin them at a lower cost. im looking to help the german look movement more than i am worried about making a buck.

[Bugorsh]

Thanks for the help but when i tried to open my task manager it says that my administrater disabled it. Its my comp and i didnt disable anything. I cant even get into my add/remove hardware screen. The windows police file is there but its still running cause i cant get into my task manager! :mad:

Have you tried to start the computer in 'safe mode', you might be able to delete it that way before it has a chance to load.

[vdubzack]

Try this site
http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html
They also have a forum to walk you through. Just put "windows police pro" in the search box.
Also , don't use controll alt delete to get to task mgr. Right click on the clock icon on bottom right of screen to activate and go from there

[cookvw]

thread hijack....LOL

[Wally]

Cook,
I sort of destroyed mine last weekend on the Ring.., but while you're at it, try to improve the air dam somewhat by making more of a splitter on the botom and maybe a little wider to flow more nicely onto the side of the fenders ;)
Walter

[cookvw]

ill do that for sure! now all i need is someone to man up and send me one! ill even pay shipping BOTH ways. i just need one for about a weeks time is all! ill even give them one that i produce to even sweeten the deal and make it more worth their time.

[Bugorsh]

I have an original kamei spoiler I can send you, it just has a small piece missing on each mounting corner. You can still easily tell the shape to fill in the difference. I can box it up and find out the shipping cost if you want to PM me an address or at least the zip code. If you are unsure as to the missing chips, I can post a pict if you wish.

[cookvw]

NICE.... thanks! well when i get paid and round up some funds...ill surly send you my address and we can ship it here and ill make the mold and then ship it back to ya. then when i make the first one...its yours!

[Bugorsh]

Cool! I looked at it again today and the two missing chips are very small and in different places so it is easy to see what the chipped areas are supposed to look like since the other side is still there to campare it with.

[cookvw]

cool...PM me your address so i can get some funds sent to ya for shipping! i get paid tomarrow, hope i got enough after bills to ship it! LOL! ugh damn bills!

[Bugorsh]

You've got mail! I know what you mean about the bills. I've got more than I need at the moment.

[Wally]

I just repaired my original Kamai by laying fiberglass layers onto the backside. It became much more stiff so maybe GRP may have its advantages as well. The original was maybe a bit too much 'formable'/plyable (sp?) after all..:rolleyes:

[vdubzack]

:(I Want one Toooooo!.....Guess I'll Get in line and wait

[cookvw]

i gave all my shipping info to Bugorsh so he could get me a shipping quote, and i have yet to here back from him! i still am looking for someone to man up and send me one, so ill be able to make it! oce i get a good mold madeup, i WILL start sellin these! i just got my shop, and i have all the needed space to start. at first im going to make them outta fiberglass intill i can find a supplier that i can buy the FRP stuff from.

[NO_H2O]

I have a fiberglass mold taken from one. It is a little rough but maybe you could use it.

[cookvw]

SEND IT!!!! ill pay shipping! and ill give you one that i make as well or even two. got any pics of it? let get this ball rolling! im tired of talking about it and not gettin anywhere! people would like these, i see the demand, and ill be the supply!

[NO_H2O]

I will try to get some pix tomorrow and shoot them to you. Drop me and email. dave@dtmengineering.com
A guy I know pulled the mold from his a few years back. I have to dig it out of my Vdub parts shed.

[SilverBullet]

How about making the spoiler with the underside plate, something like Jeffrey's front underside plate to reduce lift as well. Just a thought.

[Wally]

How about making the spoiler with the underside plate, something like Jeffrey's front underside plate to reduce lift as well. Just a thought.

I think a good fitting front underside plate would be an outstanding idea! Probably more practical to make it into two pieces that bolt together (air dam and undertray). The underside plate could then also be extended and function as an airsplitter :cool:

[evilC]

I think a good fitting front underside plate would be an outstanding idea! Probably more practical to make it into two pieces that bolt together (air dam and undertray). The underside plate could then also be extended and function as an airsplitter :cool:

.............and an ankle slice:shocked: The idea's great but the front edge needs 'softening' so as not to pose a danger especially for anything used on the road.

Clive

[Sandeep]

I'd be up for a purchase once all is said and done :D

Sandeep

[cookvw]

all ideas are considered! i like the idea so far of making an ajustable splitter on the bottom that would go from the air dam, and bolt to the bottom side of the front apron. again just an idea! i love the responces im gettin. next thuresday im going to get the mold shipped to me! ya im gettin on this, and gonna make it happen!

[Steve C]

Hi

The fitting of the underside plate is a good idea as long as it doesn't make the unit to stiff, the one on my daily 1303 is a fibreglass clone and it cops a real beating but manages to flex its way out of trouble.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/2009_0926OranPark0069.jpg

[Bugorsh]

Sorry I didn't get back to you, I have been busy with work (for a change). I will get you the shipping quote in the next day or two for sure.

[4doora]

any updates on this?

[cookvw]

ive been tied up with money and funds lately, but i just sent a pm to NO_H2O and i hope to get it shipped here soon. then ill start gettin things rolling!

[vwbao]

i buy one man. i cant wait.....

[cookvw]

ive talked to the fellow on here with the mold. as soon as i get some cash. ill be gettin it shipped asap! money is tight right now, but im tryin!

[JK Fab]

Updates !!

[geminidubber]

**** bro lets get this going. im with ya on this.

[cookvw]

ill have the funds proably next week. ill get ahold of him then have him ship the mold out to me! then ill start getting the needed meterals and ill start popin them out!

[SteveW]

I have one here in the UK that you can use. I would be willing to ship to the USA at my cost as long as you promise to get them made in a short time frame.

[JK Fab]

b
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[cookvw]

update....ill be gettin the spoiler mold shipped to my house tomarrow. im going to paypal him the money to ship it tomarrow.

[JK Fab]

updates !!

[JK Fab]

updates !!

[KAFUR1]

i WOULD LIKE ONE ALSO ANY NEWS?

[jmd]

are you guys looking for carbon or glass?
does someone in america have the mold?
I am experience with glass and would be more than happy to lay these up
if I get pre-orders with deposits. I also have a local carbon company that could take the mold and lay it out in carbon.

let me know, it sucks that no one is producing these for the obviously waiting hordes...

[jmd]

duplicate post - please remove.

[JK Fab]

JMD, where you located?

Post #40 on this thread is from SteveW and he said he has a mold. But it sounds like he may have sent it to this guy who has been MIA !! Wish I knew how to do fiberglass. Seems like there is a big market for these still...........

[jmd]

orlando, fl usa

I have done a bit of glass and feel pretty comfortable busting out a few parts. especially if I had a decent mold to work with.

anyone know the status of the or a current usa based mold?

[Natefank]

any updates????

[JK Fab]

X100

a lot of people want these and i am shocked he has not stepped up to the plate.......

[cookvw]

sorry for the long over due of the update. i was suppost to get the mold shipped, but i had an unexpected bill come up. in two weeks time or so when i get paid again ill be paypaling him the money and ill have pics up of progress. im sorry all. money realy has been tight for me as of late! i apllogize for this long wait!

[Natefank]

i think maybe we should all kick down some money to cookvw to get this thing going

[JK Fab]

Cookvw

what is it going to take to get this going ??

[cookvw]

ok...spoiler mold is paid for! and will be sent im sure tomarrow. i FINALLY got the money worked up, my friend and i are both going into this. so as soon as i get the mold ill be taking orders on spoilers. lets start making the vote as to how much i should sell these for. whats the going rate for the group buy on a kamei spoiler?

[kookie]

Hello all, I am the friend helping.

[JK Fab]

I have not been in the german look sceen long enough to know what they sold for. Hopefully someone can give us more info. ......

Hey cookvw how long will it take for the mold to get to you ?

[cookvw]

got shipped out today from Ga, and i live in UT. being shipped ground. im assumming a week i suppose maybe?? also i know how to lay out fiberglass, done lots of repairs on cars with fiberglass, but ive never made something off of a mold...any input will be helpful.

[KAFUR1]

check out this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsvgaWHPMF4

[4doora]

Get the mold in the mail yet, cook?
I don't know how much the authentic ones went for... If you could make 'em available for around $100, I'd be all over that.

[cookvw]

ya...my friend just got the mold in the mail yesterday. tomarrow ill be going over to his house and we will start getting meterals to start making them. where still working out a price tho. i do want to price these accordingly. not trying to make a million, but i also dont want to givve them away. im thinking smewhere around $130-$150 plus shipping. but i wanna here people chime in that HAVE the real ones and know how much they go for so i at least have an idea.

also...ill post pics up of the mold as soon as i see it tomarrow.

[NO_H2O]

Glad to hear that it made it ok.

[owdlvr]

Pricing on the real ones is not really relevant as they are ABS plastic (I believe), not fiberglass. Kamei's seem to go for $150-200usd on average, but you must keep in mind that the ABS construction is considerably more durable for a spoiler then a fiberglass unit will be.

-D

[Humble]

I've got a handful of spoilers and the going rate seems to be 100-150. Rare NOS units go for 200-300 and CF spoilers are somewhere in between.

[Eurotrs]

Humble are you looking to sell one of those spoilers?

[Natefank]

ya u wanna sell one? im super local

[JK Fab]

x2

[Humble]

Not to hijack the thread or anything but I've got one for sale and it's already spoken for. If that doesn't go through I'll put it up in the for sale section, so keep an eye out :)

[dave18]

Got a kamie style one but with two air ducts for £10 sterling about 8 - 12 usd :D:D:D:D:D

[al_kaholik]

Pics?... could be interested.

[cookvw]

ill be posting pics tomarrow of the mold. then hopfully i can find time to play with it a bit! :)

[JK Fab]

bump..............

[JK Fab]

bump x2...........

[JK Fab]

I think the MOLD should of been sent to JMD on here !!!!!!

[wrenchnride247]

...or get Creative Car Craft to do it.

[cookvw]

sorry guys.... i have a lot going on. im moving soon back to colorado so i got a lot on my plate. sorry guys...i havent even gotten the time to even touch any of my cars. i know ive said ill make them..and i WILL...i just need the damn time. the mold needs work and ill need some adjusting, but i do intend to make these...its just i need the time.

[KAFUR1]

dead end

[volksmeister]

hi guys..
anyone knows if these Kamei spoilers will fit the early standards~?
A couple of us are keen to start our GL projects with the early T1:)

[JK Fab]

dead end

ditto

[Lazarus]

la performance in the uk has them. maybe we can get a group buy together. i sent him a pm on another forum and am waiting on a reply.

[petevw]

Send the mold to me.

I can have my guy pop them out in either Fiberglass or Carbon....... :)

Pete

[JK Fab]

Contact No_H2O as I think it might be his mold ???

[NO_H2O]

It was my mold. I sent it to CookVW. It was a crude mold taken from a Kamei.

[Lazarus]

just go a reply from Lee @ LA performance. the carbon fiber fronts are 200 just to ship and around 250 for the spoiler. he mentioned something about getting a shipping company to pick up and it maybe cheaper.

[typ4boy]

just go a reply from Lee @ LA performance. the carbon fiber fronts are 200 just to ship and around 250 for the spoiler. he mentioned something about getting a shipping company to pick up and it maybe cheaper.

Right, last time i say this shipping from England is a fortune, its much cheaper to organize from your end where ever you are in the world, dont ask me why i dont no, i only say this to you all because iam trying to save you all money.

All our c/f parts are made to pre paid order only(been let down too many times from dreamers) it takes 6-8 weeks with our current work load for finished products.

Group buys are welcomed but the price for the item will be the same, its shipping where you will save money.

Thanks for all your enquiries keep the GL faith.
Lee L.A.P

[Mykul]

Sorry, I'm new, is there a website for this?

[cookvw]

so....the much awaited spoilers are soon going to be available for sale. sunday night i started working the mold. heres some pics of the mold. what im asking for thoes of you that HAVE a real spoiler, can you post up some detailed pics on just how it looks off the car and just how it attaches to the bumper. the mold i believe is missing the mounting/ or lack of on the mold. im sorry its been so long guys. but as promised these will be avliable soon. the faster i get get detailed pics, the faster i can get this mold perfected and start sellin these things.

in the pics i got some body filler on it, and am smoothing out all the imperfections in it. if you look closelt, you can see where its missing a piece that broke off the mold at some point.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/cookvwgli/spoiler1.jpg~original
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/cookvwgli/spoiler2.jpg~original
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/cookvwgli/spoiler3.jpg~original

[kookie]

Hell yeah wes!

[aircool]

Could anyone explain or better still have pictures of how the Kamei mounts? It's for a 1200/1300 model which I believe is slightly different mounting than the super?

From what I have found on the net it sounds like you "sandwich" the top lip between the bumper and bumper bracket!?! is that right?

also there are 2 holes half way up it which again from what I read are supposed to tie brackets back to the wings.

As they say a picture paints a thousand word so it would be appreciated!:)

[Joel]

Mine just sits on the inside of the bottom of the bumper with bolts through it
Had to cut some clearance notches into it to clear the bumper mounts but only because they are the later C section style, my original Y shape ones weren't a problem

THis is the best shot I have currently

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p174/Buggin_74/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv636.jpg~original

[aircool]

Cheers for the reply, so are the only bolts that hold it on the standard bottom bumper bolts?

it's weird because I bought mine from a guy that had previously had it on a car but there are no holes in it:confused:

Just spotted the lack of front beam in your photo. As I understand the 1303 is a different fitting to the 1200/1300 design, although I dont know how as I thought the square bumpers were the same!