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vdubfund
December 9th 2009, 21:48
Hi to all
Just trying to get a caliper inside my 911 7x16fuchs without spacers. Does anyone know if the 964 2pots will clear the spokes of 911 number 16inch fuchs?
These are to go on the rear of my 64 bug.
I have 944N/A calipers ,but want something more.......

Cheers
Dean

Steve C
December 10th 2009, 00:08
Hi

I have them under 17 inch BBS wheels, that wont help but maybe the photos will.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/2009_0930.jpg

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/2009_0931.jpg

vdubfund
December 10th 2009, 07:43
Hi Steve
Fellow Aussie!;)
Pics are always great.
Can you tell what discs you are using? 944T? Do the calipers extend past the wheel mounting surface of the disc? Or are they well inside?
How do you like them? Were these the ones advertised on here?
They alum are they??

Cheers for the info
Dean

Steve C
December 10th 2009, 08:29
Hi

They are just stock 944 discs, I will do a proper measure if you need it tomorrow, its 11.30 pm here now, I don't want to make a noise, but it looks like the calliper would extend a little past the wheel mounting flange.

I have the Porsche parts system on my PC and it looks like the 7x16 Fuchs was the stock wheel on that model.

I have a 15 inch spare in the car and it just touches the calliper.

I bought these callipers locally, the work well, they have a 42 mm piston and on the front I'm using early Type 3 front callipers also use a 42 mm piston, its was just slightly over braked on the rear before I fitted a bias valve.

So what's an Aussie doing in Japan playing with VWs?

Steve

vdubfund
December 10th 2009, 10:00
Cheers Steve,
I appreciate your help.
Just couldn't part with my baby, and had to take it with. I refuse to drive anything else:)
My fuchs have a 911# not a 951#, I guess they're slightly different in the spoke to caliper clearance.

Cheers mate
Dean

Steve C
December 10th 2009, 18:32
Hi

This is the wheel page from the Porsche parts system. It looks like they use a 911# part number for that car.

Steve

vdubfund
December 10th 2009, 19:57
Thanks again,
But please correct me if I`m wrong here, those are a 964 C2 caliper 89-. The 964 didn`t come with fuchs. I they wer the D90 style wheel???? But if the caliper protrudes less than about 5mm it might work.

Dean

Steve C
December 10th 2009, 20:29
Hi Dean

Its strange the Porsche parts system doesn't list a 964 as a model. It has a 911C2. My Bendix pad catalogue has the same rear pad for the 1984 - 90 Carrera. It looks like the callipers changed in 91.

I will check the amount that the calliper pokes out soon.

Steve

dub_crazee
December 13th 2009, 09:37
i ran these calipers on the back of my bug for a while - they were great :) although i cant help with the answer regarding the fuchs - i ran them with 944T discs (24mm thick same as the 964 c2) and i also ran the 964 16" cup wheels.

one thing to note is if running with the 944 n/a backplate/handbrake bits i had to use a small spacers to centralise the caliper over the discs. 3mm iirc

hope this helps

Wally
December 13th 2009, 10:10
, the work well, they have a 42 mm piston and on the front I'm using early Type 3 front callipers also use a 42 mm piston, its was just slightly over braked on the rear before I fitted a bias valve.

Steve

I measured 44mm for the 964 C2 caliper, so maybe hence the overbraking?

vdubfund
December 16th 2009, 00:35
Hey dub_crazee
No pics of the brakes??
Worth a 1000 words you know.....

shuie
December 16th 2009, 11:08
What is the spacing between bolts on that caliper? 3", or 3.5"?

vdubfund
December 16th 2009, 19:52
Hey Shuie,
Are talking the caliper mounts? My 924S plates measure about 94mm. And test fitted a 944/ 4 pot turbo caliper and they lined up no worries. I assume the 964 C2 caliper is the same spacing. Most people adapting porsche brakes to their V DUB usually use 944 or the 924S backing plates or 944/924 IRS arms.

shuie
December 16th 2009, 20:03
Yes, I'm sorry, the spacing between the two mounting bolts. Do you also use the 944 rotor with these?

vdubfund
December 16th 2009, 21:08
You can use 944T / 996 / or 986S I believe. All are 24mm x 299mm .

Wally
December 17th 2009, 03:41
Dean is correct: C2 (and a lot more) rear calipers have 94mm bolt spacing.

dub_crazee
December 18th 2009, 06:28
Hey dub_crazee
No pics of the brakes??
Worth a 1000 words you know.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/dub_crazee/76%201200%202/DSCF1827.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/dub_crazee/76%201200%202/DSC00359.jpg~original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/dub_crazee/76%201200%202/DSCF1829.jpg~original

Steve C
December 19th 2009, 06:01
Hi

I just measured how far my calipers protrude past the wheel bolt face. Its about 12 mm.

Steve

vdubfund
December 19th 2009, 06:59
Cheers Dub crazee and Steve for you time and effort.
Much appreciated!;)

SilverBullet
December 29th 2009, 04:21
Hi to all
Just trying to get a caliper inside my 911 7x16fuchs without spacers. Does anyone know if the 964 2pots will clear the spokes of 911 number 16inch fuchs?
These are to go on the rear of my 64 bug.
I have 944N/A calipers ,but want something more.......

Cheers
Dean

I've just tried 7x16 fuchs on the front with 993 4 pot calipers and disc, it does touch the rim, had a fine scratch line on the inside of the rim, I would guess your 2 pot 964 wouldnt have a problem.