Zigi's 1303

[Zigi]

Hello fans, I am form Czech Republic (Europe) and I want to transfer little bit my 73" 1303 into German Look.
here is my car: http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/Brouk/IMG_2336.jpg

I want to use 17" Porsche CUP wheels, CUP 2 or 3, what I will buy better.

I dont know in Europe a lot of producers of good suspension parts, that I find this one: http://store.airkewld.com/e-shop-online/suspension/super-beetle-1302-1303/1974-1979-complete-lowering-kit.html

- what do you think about this one? It is good option? Do you have any other option in maximum of this price???

- do you think I can use standard fenders, or there is no way how to mount 17" Porsche wheels (7J front, 8,5J rear) under stock fenders???

Thank you very much for help and any suggestions. During January I want to order all parts, to handle it before spring.

[NO_H2O]

Looks like the front struts are Topline Maxx Struts. You might want to look at Topline's site.
http://www.toplineparts.com/

[Zigi]

Thanks for the link!
any other ideas about my questions? In Czech is problem to reach any relevant informations:( I really appreciate your help. I dont want to order or find out anything bad, when it was solved long time ago before I want to do it:)

My dream result is my cream bug, on "antracit" 17" Porsche CUP wheels. Engine is now rebuilding, to be little bit stronger:) And I have no idea about fenders.....and it is hard to get them into Czech, in good condition, and for some reasonable price + postage.

thanks for your help ! and I will post progress pictures

[NO_H2O]

Many people have used Porsche 17x7 wheels under stock fenders with the Topline MaxxStrut on the front and a bit of clearancing on the bump stop cup at the rear. Some have had to flip the forward bolt on the spring plate/trailing are joint also.

[Zigi]

That sounds perfect!

Problem is,that most common 17 CUP wheels have ET front 50 and rear 55....do you think this still can be under stock fenders?

And what about brakes,my plan was only to exchange my drums for drums with 5x130 patterns. That was first. And cheap solution, but I know now enough. Do you think when I use these drums, it will fits still?

Do you have any brake "sets" which you can recomand to me, which can be easily replaced for original drums on my car? I think this will be pretty expensive thing for me:(

Thank you very much!

[chug_A_bug]

you can atleast put a type3 disc with a 5X130 and Keep the Stock Drums on the back...

http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D4123

Chris.

[Zigi]

Nice, thank you, I found this kit on www.toplineparts.com written above. Better to transport it from USA than Canada, thank you!

But this kit is 4x130 as Super Beetle??? Or 5x130?
Or rear, I have to change it for drums with 5x130 as well, now I have 4x130, or do you think, there will be a spacer for change from 4x130 to 5x130 ???? Or not a space for spacer under 17" CUP wheel ??

[chug_A_bug]

your best bet is to get blank rotor and Drums and drill them to 5x130.
That Site I posted, you can buy them already done...

Chris.

[Zigi]

this is my goal. But I still dont know if 8J or 8,5J will fit under stock rear fenders:( And the brakes wont be big like this Porsche ones. The rest will be I hope like this :) Looking forward to collect all the parts.
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/br.jpg

[Zigi]

Some progress.

Yesterday I bought on eBay CUP 3 wheels
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/kola.jpg

7J and 8,5J....I hope they will fit under stock fenders, what do you mind?

The suspension will be complete kit from Airkewld ( Topline front)

+ I found front 944 brakes. Only there I have no idea what will be neccesary for installing them on me 1303 with drums:)

If you have any ideas, I will be glad.

Enjoy new year 2010, back with Germanlook forum:)

[Zigi]

Maybe can some admin put my topic into projects? It is now not only a question of suspension,and I was new here:( Sorry admins!

Thanks a lot,Lukas

[Zigi]

Very first touch. Rear has to go lower, but that will be adjusted according how low we should go with the front.

Finally new look of 944 Turbo seats.

Porsche brakes all around finally.

The season is over, but I want to be ready for next season from the begining :-)

[evilC]

Very first touch. Rear has to go lower, but that will be adjusted according how low we should go with the front.

Finally new look of 944 Turbo seats.

Porsche brakes all around finally.

The season is over, but I want to be ready for next season from the begining :-)

Did you source your front coilovers? Not wishing to upset anybody but I would stick with a European supplier for the suspension parts as they will know local (European) conditions. Traditionally, main stream manufacturers have different settings for different markets. GL is about performance IMO so I would look to Bilstein, Koni, CSP, Spax, Avo etc for the suspension package.
It is likely that the front end will be stiffer and because you are lowering the rear that needs to be stiffer to. Change the rear torsion bars and/or add coilovers. If you have stiff coilovers then add a 5 bar Kafer Cup brace to the rear and a strut brace to the front.
Performance kit will not work properly without the correct control so, fit at least poly bushes all round.

I wasn't aware there was a season????? Its just as much fun playing in snow as on dry tarmac.

[Zigi]

The front will be Maxx Strut:
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/podvozek.jpg

Engine is already in. But nothing killing, just 1775 with a few adjustements.
This will be a first version, to find out all problems with Porsche brakes, standard fenders + Porsche wheels, etc. Testing:) Begining of GL, not a racing special at all. So after it will be complete, I wil start to test the chassis, car.

[Zigi]

Some news :-) Now we can start with finish design works. Dechroming, carbon, black color, etc. Another front tire, interior finish, still a lot to do.

http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/mobil%20117.jpg

http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/mobil%20120.jpg

http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/mobil%20119.jpg

http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/mobil%20105.jpg

[Xellex]

:goodjob: looking cool!

[Yannick33]

Great !!! What size of tires have you installed ?

[Pablo]

Looking good, what size spacers did you use with the wheels?

[T5WOB]

some nice links there guys all saved for when i get that far .stuff cost so much more in uk http://www.red9design.com/type2.htm

[Zigi]

Thank you !
And some answers:
There are no spacers. Front is Maxx Strut complete kit + Porsche 944 front brake, so under stock fender it is already too wide, and I have to change front tire for 195/40/17 , then it will be what I want.
Rear is 924 brake from S, so 5x130 lugs on all wheels, also without any spacer. All wheels are 7J 17".

[Pablo]

Thanks for the answers, your car is almost exactly how mine will look when done, even the colour & trim.

[Zigi]

And here some news.
I know,it is just "fake" carbon, foil and clear cote etc..but I trully like the final look.
Btw, do you know somebody making some real carbon parts? I know only bumpers and a few parts time by time, but some "complete" offer, or somebody doing also bonnet, etc ? ? some URLs? Thank you !

[Zigi]

Some other...

[NO_H2O]

Nice bumpers.

[Pablo]

Very nice :goodjob:

[Zigi]

First testing kilometers well done :)
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/IMG_1029.JPG

[TSAF]

Very nice car. The fake carbon looks SUPER!!!! You should apply fake carbon on your running boards as well. What is your engine size? type I or type IV?

[NO_H2O]

Looks very nice.

[Gerrelt]

Very nice!

[onixbonilla]

I really like your car! It seems to be a very balance ride, a car that is a perfect daily driver!:)

[Zigi]

Thank you !
Yes, it is not an extreme, just a daily driver with a feel of Germen Look.

Engine is Type 1, 1775 ccm, 2 x 40 carbs, ported heads, etc. Not a racing car, but for normal small road very agile car. Now I am making interier, and during winter I would like to buy some basis for 2,1 or 2,2 engine from US. Maybe here will be somebody who will be able to help me with some transport.

[TSAF]

The new engine will be Type I one again or you will go for a type IV?

[Zigi]

The new engine will be Type I one again or you will go for a type IV?

type I for sure

[onixbonilla]

Being not extreme is what I like it so much. It is very easy to over do and end with a limited use car. I bite the bullet and ended with a car so impractical for the street that only is used to club gatherings. I am planning on building something similar as yours! :)

[Zigi]

With a girlfriend on a trip :)
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/IMG_0022.jpg
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/IMG_1083.jpg
http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/IMG_0048.jpg

[Zigi]

http://zigis.wz.cz/foto/BroukGL/Rychnovek/IMG_0113.jpg

[TSAF]

Why don't you consider a type iv? Nothing fancy a "small" 2.4 lump maybe

[Zigi]

Why don't you consider a type iv? Nothing fancy a "small" 2.4 lump maybe

Maybe the future. First was to try the setup, chassis, etc. It is not too easy to build this when you are not in US, or not earning like German :) So the engine is the future. And with the engine, there will be interier out, roll cage in etc. To see once Spa meeting :)

[TSAF]

Type iv's are not that popular in US. At the moment there a couple of bargains in the market for a good engine. Check also other VW forums and you will understand.