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cobra
December 31st 2009, 08:49
Hi

Thought to make a thread about my vw 1302 I started on the last project on this car in 2008. Having had many difrent engines in the car. t-1 1640cc 1800cc and 2015cc t-4 2154 turbo. Through the years. I found out in 2008 that I would have a more durable and powerful motor / drive system. After working as a mitsubishi mechanics of 11 years and subsea mechanic for 3 years. I sat and thought a lot to put a mitsubishi motor in my 1302s. But there were two engine was left in the final phase. It was the lancer evo 6 4g63t and mitsubishi gto Japanese version of the 3000gt VR4 twin turbo 6g72tt 6 speed. But I decided gto issues. because gears and engine package was 15 cm narrower one evo. Gto 6g72tt has 340 hp and 500nm original. And a very strong getage transmission is converted to 2wd with LSD. Since the engine and gearbox will be mid mounted engine. Gto engine is very easy to get out a lot of horsepower and nm.

cobra
December 31st 2009, 09:02
More photos of the front cut and from the beginning of work

cobra
December 31st 2009, 09:34
To get this engine package in the car must be cut off pretty much, irs tubes, 200mm from the floor + + + +

cobra
December 31st 2009, 09:37
More photos

cobra
December 31st 2009, 11:16
My front brakes.

Evo 8 callipper, porsche 944 na hub, porsche 996 turbo disc

and a smal edition tubeframe.

johnnyvee
December 31st 2009, 12:31
crazy, hope it's not too loud in the driver area :lmao:

cobra
December 31st 2009, 12:46
crazy, hope it's not too loud in the driver area :lmao:


:-)
There comes a isolate sound wall(fire wall). But it could be a little hot in the car :-) but heat is something we need here in cold Norway.

volkdent
December 31st 2009, 20:24
Very cool, I think we may even have the same intercooler! Nice to know there's a couple other crazy people out there like me. Very nice to have the LSD and a transmission ready for that sort of HP and torque, I'm going to have to add a LSD and beef up the axles to keep up with the HP on mine. Are you keeping the stock front suspension? More pics please!

Jason

Steve C
December 31st 2009, 22:26
H

This is going to be very interesting thread, cant wait to read more.

Are you going to use the all of the Mitsubishi front suspension as rear suspension?

Do your local authorities have any problem with such a large motor in a small car?

Steve

cobra
January 1st 2010, 07:28
It's good there are some crazy people like us, who dare to initiate such projects:):)Steve and Jason, their projects have given me many good ideas and tips. Thanks

In the front i have 1303 past 74 suspension. kw coilovers, Kerscher Anti-Roll Bar front 23mm. And rally welded front/tubeframe. I'm using the old 1302s steering box. And of course, complete set of polyurethane brusings.

In the rear: According to the plan I use everything from mitsubishi front suspension. Subframe, brakes + +. But shock absorbers should I replace whit tein or Íhlins. Due to need adjustment possibilities. I also need to modify the damper, for they have come closer together at the top. Subframe the gto is very good to mount. Since it is screwed together as a unit. With two bolts in front and six on the rear. It is then bolted right in tubeframen. It seems very easy to put it on the lingering with the rest of the car.

In the rear ving: I have intercooler and oil cooler. :)

cobra
January 1st 2010, 07:50
It is not easy to get a building like this approved in Norway. It is best to travel to the tuv in Germany. Since they are the main vehicle approved in Europe.

Photo 1. subfram (from the web)

Photo 2. Wing

Photo 3. Porsche 944 na dics vs porsche 996 turbo c4 disc :)

Photo 4 and 5 Some good ideas

cobra
January 5th 2010, 13:01
:-)

cobra
January 5th 2010, 13:15
Div pictures of reinforcement of the frame and welding of mitsubishi frame into the vw. I decided, and spend some more of gto frontcut. So I also use parts of the front frame with motor mounts. So roll cage will be attached in it too. More updates coming soon :-)

cobra
January 9th 2010, 06:27
Now is the framework from gto. Welded into the car. And I have started to attach the roll cage to the frame from the gto. Has some work left with, and make parties to the shock absorbers. + + + And some reinforcements.:)

cobra
January 9th 2010, 06:32
Test fitting the engine and gearbox.

volkdent
January 11th 2010, 03:21
Lookin good, I wanna see that thing running!

Jason

70Turbobug
January 11th 2010, 05:10
Awesome project!! That┤s going to be quite a monster!

cobra
February 24th 2010, 05:40
I have now bought my Proflex rally shock absorbers, as I hold on to adapt. Plans are for the weekend to begin welding roll cage finished. Creating finished last mount to shock absorbers.

chug_A_bug
February 24th 2010, 14:31
WOW! :D that's a wide track....

Chris.

Humble
February 24th 2010, 19:01
That's as wide if not wider than my bug, damn. What's the track width in the rear (wheel center to wheel center)?

volkdent
February 24th 2010, 19:28
Thats going to be a trick to get those fatties under some fenders!!! Have you run it yet?

Jason

cobra
February 25th 2010, 04:48
Thank you for all the great comments:-) Wheel center to center is 1580mm. So it is quite wide. But as it is now, the wheels much of the blame for the width. If I had chosen some other wheels BBS or compomotive ET 50 or 60. If I could have managed with my 70mm wideding, as I have. On each side. But now I have to make me some custom fenders 140mm ekstra on each side.

I have a lot of work left before it is ready for startup. And before it is ready for testdrive. When I finished welding everything. I start with a good paint job in the engine compartment. So I stretch all the cooling hoses, electric network. fuel system, etc. So in the spring, should it be ready for some testing:):)

cobra
March 3rd 2010, 13:45
:) I nead a new camra.

cobra
March 7th 2010, 07:17
More frame:-)

cobra
March 13th 2010, 13:49
:)

cobra
May 25th 2010, 07:29
Now I have started the time consuming process, welding together of the body in the new engine room. All internal fenders. :)

volkdent
May 25th 2010, 14:18
We need some update pics on a new camera! Keep up the good work.

Jason

cobra
May 25th 2010, 15:54
We need some update pics on a new camera! Keep up the good work.

Jason


Update with a new camera coming soon:-)

cobra
July 2nd 2010, 16:12
Now I'm going again. There has been much welding and body work on the car lately. To complete the inner Fender. And the painting of the car on the inside. Has changed the timeing belt today. To the Kevlar type. Starting and building the gearbox from the 4 wd to 2wd tomorrow. Focus on getting the engine and gearbox in place within 2 weeks. So maybe it will start in the summer :-)

cobra
July 2nd 2010, 16:18
:-)

cobra
July 2nd 2010, 16:20
Timing belt:-)

cobra
July 5th 2010, 18:07
Today I installed LSD differencial and welded Viscous Coupling Unit. So it is now 2wd :-)Photos coming

volkdent
July 6th 2010, 01:58
Awesome!!! Is it running yet?

Jason

cobra
July 6th 2010, 17:45
Awesome!!! Is it running yet?

Jason

There is some work left before the start. The gearbox is now complete. Need to get the clutch from the ATC. So the engine and gearbox can be put back in place. When it is in place. Can I begin to draw the water pipes, gas pipes and oil pipes. Installing my two 3 "magna flow muflers. And hook up motor Electrical. Then it will start about 2-3 weeks shown all goes according to plan. :-)

cobra
August 19th 2010, 13:53
Some more pictures. It is nearing the start. But waiting for some parts.

Steve C
August 19th 2010, 23:08
Hi

What colour is you car.

Steve

cobra
August 20th 2010, 10:53
Hi

What colour is you car.

Steve

Hi

Mitsubishi carisma blue. It comes in two editions, I have the most amount of blue in. The other has a little purple in it.

Eatoniashoprat
August 20th 2010, 15:06
Wow this thing is going to be wild, keep it up

Mike

cobra
September 25th 2010, 11:03
Hi

Have mounted exhaust now, clutch and pedal system is mounted, gas pipes and pumps are in place, the transfer gearbox wiers is in place. Engin Electrical mount next week. in two weeks I get I coolant hoses and pipes from the UK. So it approaches the start-up and test ride

cobra
October 9th 2010, 08:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4b4Gvah_aM


Test start:-)

Xellex
October 9th 2010, 10:05
it looks and sounds great! :goodjob:

volkdent
October 12th 2010, 20:41
Isn't that a great feeling when it first comes to life!!? Congrats, now we need the smoky burnout video!

Jason

cobra
October 13th 2010, 13:57
Isn't that a great feeling when it first comes to life!!? Congrats, now we need the smoky burnout video!

Jason



Thanks :-)It was a wonderful feeling when it started without a single problem :-) A good motivation to get the car 100% ready for spring next year. Burnout video coming soon. I have some 265/35-18 tires to be burned off. Just need to get the car a bit more screwed together :-)

cobra
December 14th 2010, 18:04
New video;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8xM9nTirUw

volkdent
December 14th 2010, 19:32
That is so awesome, congrats! You'll have plenty of suspension stuff to work out, but at least it's driveable now!

Might I suggest some sort of air inlet on the leading edge of the rear fenders to break up the width? They will be so fat looking when it is done, maybe you can utilize the opening for your intercooler?

Jason

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/754998.jpg

bow
December 14th 2010, 22:41
that thing is sweet! im in love! i see this in a magazine soon

cobra
December 15th 2010, 10:13
Thanks for all the great comments:-)

The plan is to create some air intakes in the fenders, For they are going to be wide hehehe. So I make the ventilation at the rear of the fenders. When I do not think they will see so wide out. Do some work again. The plan is to have it ready for test driving on a track in the spring. There are a lot of fine adjustment when it comes on the road.

cobra
February 8th 2011, 16:56
Fender `s under construction :-)

volkdent
February 8th 2011, 17:36
That thing is looking MEAN!!! Have you had it out for a run yet? How's the alignment working for you?

Jason

cobra
February 8th 2011, 17:45
That thing is looking MEAN!!! Have you had it out for a run yet? How's the alignment working for you?

Jason

Hi Have not taken any drive yet. Since it is just too much snow and ice here in Norway now. But in March / April I'll run it out a bit :-)
Alignment is only adjusted gross now. So it is first tested when the snow disappears. :)

cobra
May 21st 2011, 04:57
Soon it up and go for street and track:). Must just fixed my own health first:angry:A hand that is a bit worn out

cobra
May 21st 2011, 05:06
Dasj

cobra
May 21st 2011, 13:25
:)

cobra
September 21st 2011, 15:36
:)

cobra
October 7th 2011, 17:34
Long time since update. But waiting on two helmet camera. So that I can get a test ride before the snow comes

cobra
October 7th 2011, 17:37
:-) The picture inside is old. new image with rollover cage and the interior is completely finished coming soon

Mikey
October 7th 2011, 20:34
The car looks great!! :goodjob:

cobra
January 10th 2012, 11:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJ_6ENmFVs&context=C367e5cbADOEgsToPDskLJU4j7VSv4wolw2J4P9rgW

volkdent
January 11th 2012, 12:27
I checked it out a few days ago, nice little vid there! Is it road worthy yet?

Jason

Humble
January 12th 2012, 14:09
I'm curious to see what your corner weights are. should be fast and fun at any rate :)

cobra
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