'65 bus GL prahjekt

[hotsauce]

Hey all, guess its time i show what im workin on....:D


its a 1965 "EZ Camper" going GL.

Heres the plan...
Power will be supplied by a torque monster 1915cc that my buddy is building. Specs on that later.
Full exterior repaint in the original velvet green.
'83 944 vented discs front and rear, with a 944 MC as well.
17" Porsche turbo twists 7" front 9" rear.
4" narrow beam and drop spindles from wagenswest and a steering box raise.
IRS conversion rear along with a narrowed torsion housing to fit those 9" wheels.
Built type 1 trans from AZ transaxle.
Safari windows from Wolfgang.
And i will be fixing the "jersey look" fenders also. Stay tuned for that.

Heres some pics of the bus:

This how she looked when i found her.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/65camper004.jpg~original

Heres how she sits now.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/65camper008-1.jpg~original

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/65camper018.jpg~original

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/65camper020-2.jpg~original

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/Porschebrakes005.jpg~original

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/Porschebrakes004.jpg~original

[NO_H2O]

Sweet,,, a splitty bus GL project to watch.

[Panelfantastic]

Me likey.


Jeff-

[hotsauce]

Havent seen much progress with this but i'll update what ive got so far.


Steering box raise in progress....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah010.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah009.jpg

Safaris partially installed, i still have to weld the tabs in. We quit workin cos it was late and we had already put away a case of Rolling Rock.

Oh yeah, and you may notice i shaved the "fried egg" turn signals.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah015.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah014.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah016.jpg


Put LED's in the stock taillights

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah008.jpg

Running light.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah006.jpg


And this is the brake light. i better not get rear ended when i get this thing rollin.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/deborah007.jpg[/

[hotsauce]

i forgot to add one small detail. im not going to be building a type 1 based engine anymore. i recently acquired a 1.7L type IV from a friend for next to nothin. Cabt wait to stomp some ricers in a bus :lmao:

[hotsauce]

Small update.....

It rolls!!!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DoubleTrouble62/65camper034-1.jpg~original

[chug_A_bug]

looken Sweet man...

Chris.

[volkdent]

Looking hot, great progress.

Jason

[NO_H2O]

Looking nice. That should be a nice ride.

[hotsauce]

Thanks guys, i cant wait to drive this beast!!!!

Cant work on it this weekend though, had to yank the engine out of my daily to figger out why its burning oil. booooo.

[Hebster52]

Looking great! You wouldn't have any How-to info on the LED taillight conversion? I would appreciate some info about that. ;)

[DORIGTT]

How much did you have to narrow the IRS to get the wheels to tuck properly?

[hotsauce]

Looking great! You wouldn't have any How-to info on the LED taillight conversion? I would appreciate some info about that. ;)

Basically i figured out how much room i had to play with inside the lens area, then found some "trailer" LED lights and retro-fitted them. A little cutting and fitting and they dont look half bad IMO....

[hotsauce]

How much did you have to narrow the IRS to get the wheels to tuck properly?

i narrowed it 3" total. 1.5" per side. Heres a how to link:

http://vwrepublic.com/forums/index.php?topic=22.0

edit. Just re-read your question and realised i didnt answer properly. i didnt narrow the IRS, i narrowed the bus torsion to bug specs, and then it was a bolt on operation, except for having to recess the IRS pivots into the bus frame horns.

[hotsauce]

Oh yeah, update. Got the brakes sorted and bled today. The pushrod needs adjusted because there is a bit of freeplay in the pedal....type 1 engine is also getting the top end freshened so i can drive it while i build the monster type 4.

[MX67]

Cool GL T1.

Will be watching this :)

@ Hebster: You can use this, simple and cheap, I've tried similar, works fine! I had them on my 1967 for two years, much better visibility :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/36-TOP-LED-Car-Tail-Stop-Rear-Brake-Light-Bulb-Lamp-New-/140470140232?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b4ac3d48#ht_4063wt_1139

[hotsauce]

So since getting new tires, i've gone and decided to tub the front end, because it was too close to the tires and i was afraid theyd rub once the bus is full of interior.

So we went ahead and cut em out!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189644_10150431848830615_656135614_17374514_621996 7_n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/188884_10150431874020615_656135614_17374810_368817 7_n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189349_10150431936715615_656135614_17375764_570449 _n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189624_10150431926780615_656135614_17375593_742967 1_n.jpg

and since we are tubbing the wheel wells 2" the seat rails need to come up and this was how it was decided to do it...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/183090_10150431975990615_656135614_17376227_352645 8_n.jpg

Got done raising all the seat brackets...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/199869_10150433071135615_656135614_17387706_666649 9_n.jpg

Cutting an fitting...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189766_10150433169625615_656135614_17389127_365041 0_n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/184822_10150433140740615_656135614_17388648_602293 _n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189843_10150433139330615_656135614_17388638_453774 1_n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189143_10150433200615615_656135614_17389529_117798 2_n.jpg

starting to fill in the void...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/197978_10150433263515615_656135614_17390083_175504 6_n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189499_10150433293550615_656135614_17390328_715366 _n.jpg

this piece started out flat... kinda made a break/jig to get it this way...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189856_10150435910825615_656135614_17414207_92655_ n.jpg

here it is tacked in place

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/196324_10150435990670615_656135614_17414928_186663 2_n.jpg

the whole front tacked into place after making a few more "fun" pieces...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/untitled.jpg

decided to change a few things around on top so it lines up better...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/199692_10150436179475615_656135614_17417384_136136 7_n.jpg

pretty much it for the pass side... still have a lot of finishing work to do...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/189543_10150436179350615_656135614_17417381_433939 _n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/crazyeyes69/untitled2.jpg

[wrenchnride247]

Love keeping the metal looking stock. The flip flops gotta go while welding though (if it was me)

[hotsauce]

Heh, thats my buddy in the flippies. He never takes them off unless he's riding his Harley.

[wrenchnride247]

Heh, thats my buddy in the flippies. He never takes them off unless he's riding his Harley.

Oh... Yeah, I cant ride my Harley in "flippies" either... mines a kick start only 93 inch shovel head. :D

[hotsauce]

So, not much to report other than i now understand why people use trailer fenders when tubbing their buses. Its a ****load of work to make it look proper. We did manage to cut out the original rear hoop/brace and add our own frame brace. Now we are going to be working on the repositioning of the shock mounts for the rear. The picture im posting doesnt show the 3/16" brace that we made between the framehorns, but i assure you there is one there now.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230458_10150616276255615_656135614_18588098_266211 _n.jpg


ive also decided on a color scheme for this project. It will be the original Velvet Green on the top, and Porsche slate gray metallic from the beltline down. Let me know what you think.

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230413_1771005036165_1270414746_31527238_2139835_n .jpg

im gonna be working on this again this sunday, so more pics to follow.

[Luismj]

No photoshoped.... Bodyshopped!! :lmao: :rockon:

[Clatter]

You're going to run add-on rear 'skirts' like in the picture,
or run factory rear wheel openings?

Seems like after taking all of the trouble to tub the rear,
you would want to put the rear flares back to stock.

And avoid the "Jersey look" cut rear wheelwells...:D

JMHO...

[hotsauce]

You're going to run add-on rear 'skirts' like in the picture,
or run factory rear wheel openings?

Seems like after taking all of the trouble to tub the rear,
you would want to put the rear flares back to stock.

And avoid the "Jersey look" cut rear wheelwells...:D

JMHO...


What im doing to the rear openings is filling them in so it looks 'stock' but using Dzus fasteners so they are removeable. Thats the only way that id be able to get the gigantic wheels out of there. i didnt cut the wheel arch out, that was done by a PO . . . .

[hotsauce]

Update: since doing the front wheel tubs, I've had to notch the frame for the tie rods as it sits a good 1.5" lower. I've also picked up a T3 turbo for it. Can't wait till it cools down so I can get back out there.

[Jadewombat]

What im doing to the rear openings is filling them in so it looks 'stock' but using Dzus fasteners so they are removeable. Thats the only way that id be able to get the gigantic wheels out of there. i didnt cut the wheel arch out, that was done by a PO . . . .

Don't know why people would do that, some PO hacked my arches too. Had stock ones put back on as the bus is being painted. I'm running 16" MB CLK rims on mine, bus IRS swap with 2500lb. airbags in the rear. Clearance is pretty close on mine but what I do is jack the bus way up, pump up the bags a little which drops the arm down, and remove the wheel by rotating the lower part of the rim to the center of the bus until the top outer edge of the tire clears the apron then pull the whole thing out (hope this makes sense). It's tight but I am able to get it out. The face of the rim is exposed to the ground when you're doing this though.

[hotsauce]

Don't know why people would do that, some PO hacked my arches too. Had stock ones put back on as the bus is being painted. I'm running 16" MB CLK rims on mine, bus IRS swap with 2500lb. airbags in the rear. Clearance is pretty close on mine but what I do is jack the bus way up, pump up the bags a little which drops the arm down, and remove the wheel by rotating the lower part of the rim to the center of the bus until the top outer edge of the tire clears the apron then pull the whole thing out (hope this makes sense). It's tight but I am able to get it out. The face of the rim is exposed to the ground when you're doing this though.

That's how I had to take the stock wheels off my double cab. I figured I'd take advantage of it already being cut since I'd never do that myself.....

[hotsauce]

Front tie rod notches are done. Going to start fabbing the Turbo header tomorrow. Any advice from you Turbo pros?

[Panelfantastic]

Ahhh... the memories. From tubbing my bus to having to remove the bolt from bottom coilover mount to get the wheel off. Good Times!

Your project is really coming together!


Jeff=

[hotsauce]

Thanks Jeff! I know what you mean about getting the wheels outta there. That's why I'm leaving the rear cut.....

[hotsauce]

So......... it seems I've forgotten to mention this, but I Have acquired a Turbo for this project. In light of this I have decided to upgrade my trans and sold the type 1 IRS box. Now I'm on the lookout for a Porsche trans. If you know of anything, let me know please! Also, since I'm looking for said trans, I've also decided to use the aluminum arms I originally bought for this project and move the IRS pivot brackets inboard. This will require cutting out out the framehorns and 'hoop' I put in and fabbing a front and rear mount for the drivetrain. No biggie, its just metal right?

[TSAF]

Your bus will be a sweet ride. You might want to consider this kit:
http://www.creative-engineering.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26

In England these guys have gained a lot of respect.

[hotsauce]

Your bus will be a sweet ride. You might want to consider this kit:
http://www.creative-engineering.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26

In England these guys have gained a lot of respect.


Holy **** that's awesome! However It probably wouldn't work on my bus as I raised the steering box...... and at £790, that's pretty pricey for steering. If anything I'll ditch the beam and go with a Porsche set up....

[hotsauce]

Gosh I wish I could post pics from my phone. I've cut the dash on my bus And am adding 914 gauges. Gonna be sick when I'm done. I tried the uploader below and it didn't work, so y'all are gonna have to wait for pics til I can get in front of a desktop. Sorry. :(

[TSAF]

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

[hotsauce]

First cut......... no turning back.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402143_2465412475917_1270414746_32037542_135551174 3_n.jpg


Tacking it together. . . . .

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383727_2467269602344_1270414746_32038456_112488387 9_n.jpg


Almost there.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405881_2498346579249_1270414746_32052309_227174733 _n.jpg


And done-zo.


http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384931_2498724708702_1270414746_32052798_125121276 0_n.jpg


Gonna weld it in the dash tomorrow.

[Supa Ninja]

Try to find a combo gauge with oil temp, that would make cluster even more awesome!

[hotsauce]

That's what a friend suggested. I need to find a matching boost gauge to add in the top center too.

[Supa Ninja]

I ran this boost gauge on my honduh http://www.frsport.com/Garrett-Turbo-Mechanical-Boost-Gauge-30-inHG-to-30-PSI_p_7793.html Just paint the bezel black and your good to go.

[NO_H2O]

Awesome.

[hotsauce]

Picked up a 901 today. Thanks Randy! Pics as soon as I get in front of a desktop computer.

[hotsauce]

Here's the dash tacked in.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/424647_2632072842322_1270414746_32102353_299806372 _n.jpg


And a pic of the transaxle.


http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/404346_2662571964781_1270414746_32113488_139756980 0_n.jpg


Bye bye framehorns.


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/421925_2697651401745_1270414746_32124894_536513286 _n.jpg


And the first test fitment. Its gonna push the engine back a bit.....


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/424701_2702541884004_1270414746_32126405_133222298 _n.jpg

[dub_crazee]

cool project - did you consider going the IRS framehorn route? 2 birds with one stone then?

[hotsauce]

Originally yes. However, since I decided it'd be cooler to use the aluminum arms I have, I had to move the pivots inboard by 1.5" and that meant removing the framehorns entirely.

[dub_crazee]

ah right fair enough! keep the progress pictures coming - looking forward to seeing this one done!

[hotsauce]

Here's the start of the front mount. More laters.


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/432040_2780667997108_1270414746_32157779_196539516 7_n.jpg

[hotsauce]

Front mount is done-zo. Hoping for some time this weekend to screw with the rear mount.


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/484770_2875922578413_1270414746_32199400_171468113 0_n.jpg

[hotsauce]

So, after much thought, I've decided to ditch the cradle mount as I felt it would leave the bellhousing too thin after countersinking the bolts. So I started building a rear mount using the stock type IV moustache bar......

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/554138_3072093122554_1270414746_32249930_108101151 8_n.jpg


And here are the bits that will be welded to the frame/moustache bar once I box in the frame.


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/523156_10151482916595615_656135614_23480568_148153 7401_n.jpg

[hotsauce]

Haven't updated this in a while.....

Rear mount is just about finished. Haven't taken a pic yet. Because I'm lazy.

Dash fill panel tacked.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/534815_3191916638067_1270414746_32296890_211764175 9_n.jpg


And something I was goofing around with. I cut the decklid because it will be getting a Porsche 356 decklid grille. So instead of mounting the plate to the bumper or something lame, I thought this would be nifty. Let me know what you think.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/33952_3207932758460_1270414746_32303746_862092710_ n.jpg

[hotsauce]

Here's the pic of the mounts. Need some paint etc, but I'm happy with them.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/522937_3233869966874_1270414746_32313717_37392623_ n.jpg

[NO_H2O]

Love the lift hatch idea. Do you have pix of the engine lid with the 356 grill in it? Do you think the solid engine/tans mount might be a little brutal without some isolation?

[hotsauce]

I don't have a 356 grille...... yet. Will post pics as soon as I get one. As far as the solid mounting, I've always done that with all of my vws. I actually prefer it. Thanks for the compliment on the hatch. I'm still not 100% on how it'll look installed.

[hotsauce]

Got the shift linkage almost sorted. Just need to figure out a bushing for the bit that attaches to the hockey stick. I've got an idea... hopefully it'll work the way I envision.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/561298_3527511467728_123054266_n.jpg

I also made a patch/notch to fill where I took the heater tube out.

Oh, and I finally got the 356 grille so that mod will start soon...stay tuned.

[hotsauce]

No pics, but a somewhat exciting update. Traded my t-3 turbo for a brand new T-4 with BOV and picked up a set of suzuki gsxr 750 throttlebodies for my fuel injection conversion... I promise I'll get some pics up soon.

[TSAF]

Get them up as soon as possible!!!

[NO_H2O]

Looking forward to some pix. Really been thinking about trying some GSXR throttle bodies myself.