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Johnbigdog
June 11th 2010, 23:27
So my project is a black and blue 74 super.
Its coming slow but sure. So far i've replaces a bad trans and built my first engine, a cb performance 2276 kit. 48 ida's, cam advanced 2 deg., 1 7/8 header with stinger tip.The build has lased 6 months and i'm just starting to break it in. Just hoping not to get in trouble with it.

Up next is electrical and suspension/steering and brakes. Whats out their for me. I want to go in a on/off road rally theme....

picks in no order....

Johnbigdog
June 11th 2010, 23:29
more pics

Humble
June 13th 2010, 11:45
off to a good start! Both my engines are CB kits I put together and they go racing quite a bit. Are you looking to do something like the old 70's beetle rally cars?

Johnbigdog
June 13th 2010, 23:32
um well maybe. how bout this i just want it to handle really well on a road course or on a dirt back road. I haven't really decided...... something to this????? stock worne out suspension with a performance engine = no good...:eek::eek::eek:

Johnbigdog
June 13th 2010, 23:40
oh ya 200 miles on the new motor and it seems ok

NO_H2O
June 14th 2010, 07:13
Looks like you are off and running. Keep the updates coming.

Johnbigdog
June 14th 2010, 14:01
can someone introduce me ito ways of correctly lowering my super but still have a decent amount of suspension travel. struts and arms, sway bars, want to convert to four wheel disk.... sugestions

volkdent
June 15th 2010, 14:31
Welcome, looks like your off to a great start!

Jason

evilC
June 16th 2010, 07:51
can someone introduce me ito ways of correctly lowering my super but still have a decent amount of suspension travel. struts and arms, sway bars, want to convert to four wheel disk.... sugestions

The easiest way and the way I did ours was to buy a complete 944 undercarriage (its actually 924S, which is identical to the 944 alloy arm undercarriage):

Front. 944 two bolt struts with 1303 -40mm springs and dampers (Spax). the 944 strut means that it sits 1/2" lower still so overall you get 2" of lowering. I don't like press-in ball joints so I fab'd a new TCA to accept the 944 ball joint, longer TCA would give greater camber adjustment as mine is max'd out at -1.5*. The new TCA is beefier than original being 50x30x3RHS. The top mount is 944 4-bolt as it will provide a stiffer mount. There is a cross brace between the strut tops. LH (pre-turbo) stud axle has drilling for speedo cable - just swap over the bearing cap. Std front AR bar but flipped to get better angleof attack into TCA bush. Steering arm drilled for ball joint bump steer bushes to make the steering track rod enter from the top to stop it fouling the AR bar. New stronger/longer steering track rods. New poly bushes throughout.
The brakes are 944 single pots with 944 vented discs, aeroquip hose and new alloy backing plates (old ones rotted out). New bearings.

Rear. 944 23.5mm TBs and new Spax dampers. Alloy training arms, which give increased track. 944 spring plates with camber adjustmen, which means a 5mm plastic washer between spring plate and TB bush for clearance. VW doughnuts with 5mm spacer in the 944 alloy TB housing, which with the 5mm washer make up the difference between 944 and 1303 outer doughnuts. 14mm 944 std rear AR bar. New polybushes throughout.
The brakes are 928S4 4 pot calipers on 944T discs. BMW 5 Series rear handbrake shoes (1/2 price of Porsche). VW handbrake cable shortened and Porsche clevis brazed on. Spacers required with 944T/4 pot calipers for 15" wheels. Bias valve in rear brake line Optional extra- hydraulic handbrake.

The 14mm rear AR bar will make the car slightly tail happy but that is required for Autotesting that I intend to do.

Hope this helps for starters?

Clive

evilC
June 16th 2010, 08:04
I forgot to add: 944 drive shafts and VW181 Trekker output flanges. Please note that the auto Porsche 924S and 944s have unequal length driveshafts so you need 924S/944 manual driveshafts. At the price I paid for the 924S undercarriage (£65) I could afford to source 944 driveshafts separately (£25 each)

The wheels are 6" teledial front 7" teledial rear both 15" dia

I also swapped the steering wheel for a 944 one by de-rivetting the VW and 944 bosses and fitting the 944 to the 1303 boss with HT bolts.

Clive

PS there is still loads in the pipeline for further improvement but this lot will do for now.

evilC
June 16th 2010, 08:05
can someone introduce me ito ways of correctly lowering my super but still have a decent amount of suspension travel. struts and arms, sway bars, want to convert to four wheel disk.... sugestions

The easiest way and the way I did ours was to buy a complete 944 undercarriage (its actually 924S, which is identical to the 944 alloy arm undercarriage):

Front. 944 two bolt struts with 1303 -40mm springs and dampers (Spax). the 944 strut means that it sits 1/2" lower still so overall you get 2" of lowering. I don't like press-in ball joints so I fab'd a new TCA to accept the 944 ball joint, longer TCA would give greater camber adjustment as mine is max'd out at -1.5*. The new TCA is beefier than original being 50x30x3RHS. The top mount is 944 4-bolt as it will provide a stiffer mount. There is a cross brace between the strut tops. LH (pre-turbo) stud axle has drilling for speedo cable - just swap over the bearing cap. Std front AR bar but flipped to get better angleof attack into TCA bush. Steering arm drilled for ball joint bump steer bushes to make the steering track rod enter from the top to stop it fouling the AR bar. New stronger/longer steering track rods. New poly bushes throughout.
The brakes are 944 single pots with 944 vented discs, aeroquip hose and new alloy backing plates (old ones rotted out). New bearings.

Rear. 944 23.5mm TBs and new Spax dampers. Alloy training arms, which give increased track. 944 spring plates with camber adjustmen, which means a 5mm plastic washer between spring plate and TB bush for clearance. VW doughnuts with 5mm spacer in the 944 alloy TB housing, which with the 5mm washer make up the difference between 944 and 1303 outer doughnuts. 14mm 944 std rear AR bar. New polybushes throughout.
The brakes are 928S4 4 pot calipers on 944T discs. BMW 5 Series rear handbrake shoes (1/2 price of Porsche). VW handbrake cable shortened and Porsche clevis brazed on. Spacers required with 944T/4 pot calipers for 15" wheels. Bias valve in rear brake line Optional extra- hydraulic handbrake.

The 14mm rear AR bar will make the car slightly tail happy but that is required for Autotesting that I intend to do.

Hope this helps for starters?

Clive

Johnbigdog
July 28th 2010, 22:06
Anyone else??? Im looking for full suspension travel just a lower ride. Is their drop spindles avail????

Humble
July 29th 2010, 11:46
If you don't want to go with the porsche stuff you can go through the ultimate suspension thread (http://www.germanlook.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10305) for ideas. I don't think I've ever seen a set of drop spindles for a super so I'm not sure if they're even made.

Johnbigdog
August 3rd 2010, 20:23
ok thanks