Who can get us Kafer Cup racing videos? [Archive]

DORIGTT

November 5th 2003, 12:48

I've got a cable modem on my computer so I'm not too concerned about downloading large files like that. I'd just like them to be on VHS or DVD so I can spread the gospel of the power and allure of the 'modern' aircooled VW's with people who may not have fast modems for downloading and out in my garage when I'm working on my toys.:D

I have seen various sites like VW Speed and the one French website that links to Kafer Cup car racing...just no long (meaning a full length 2 hour video) videos.

Who hosts the races? I would imagine some budding cameramen and producers who enjoy VW's and motorsports would be excited about the possibility of sharing such exciting footage as well as make a few bucks in the process.

I'd pay the $30-$40 bucks or so per tape to own those videos.

So, talk to your friends...(I have none because I sell New VWs and drive old VW's here in the Motor City (Metro Detroit area) and see if they know anyone who has exposure to the races.

Thanks in advance.

Alex

November 6th 2003, 01:35

Here my friends :D

Not much but better than nothing.

http://www.luftboxer.com/videos.htm

Alex

Wally

November 6th 2003, 05:44

Originally posted by DORIGTT

Who hosts the races?
Thanks in advance.

Klaus Morhammer did. I did find an old tel. number from him (from '99?) : +49 898500464 but I'am not sure that still works.
He still writes for VW Speed occasionally.

It might just be that there have never been a semi-professional video shot of those races...

Walter

Richie

November 6th 2003, 07:57

Hello,

I seem to remember that there were some old Käfercup:( video's around.
One in particular was showing a race during an (also old) DTM raceweekend. It also showed the Z-series bug with the 16v watercooled boxer.
Sadly I don't have that video but I'll ask a friend who has, where he purchased it.
I'll let you know.

Cheers,
Richard

kafercup

February 3rd 2004, 23:25

I spoke with Klaus Morhammer a couple of years back and he was trying to put some of the videos together for me, but then he disappeared. :( Anyone out there have any contact with him? We need to get these videos over here so I can put them together on DVD :cool:

SilverBullet

February 4th 2004, 02:28

Are these races still going on? Sure would like to take a trip to see these races. Like a years programme on the races date would be great. :)

Richie

February 4th 2004, 03:53

Hello,

Well I was mistaken about the Käfercupvideo but he does have a video featuring the French series. But I don't think they are still available.

Klaus Morhammer is editor/contributor with a German magazine VW-Speed nowadays (oops, should have looked at Wally's reply :o )and is no longer organizing the Käfercup, as far as I know.

There is though, still a kind of Käfercup active in Germany, but it isn't as well-known as the original series. I think it's more a local series in southern Germany (Bavaria) and Austria. But maybe one of our German members can chime in?

Cheers,
Richard

Supa Ninja

February 4th 2004, 04:39

"I'm Nick and I'm addicted to Volkswagens"
"Hi Nick"

Ya put me on the list of junkies

Nick

kafercup

February 4th 2004, 18:46

AFAIK the Belgian and French Cup series are still running. With all the hardcore VW guys in Europe there has to be a collection of these videos somewhere. :D

Richie

February 5th 2004, 03:55

Hello,

Well, Elroocky is a contender in the French series as far as I know, maybe he can provide the video's?

Cheers,
Richard

Sandeep

February 6th 2004, 10:07

Elroocky,

Do you have a link to this racing series ? I would be really interested in seeing some pictures ! :D We're STARVED for VW racing videos on this side of the Pond. :help:

Thanks

Sandeep

Typethree

February 10th 2004, 14:14

Hi there,
I own the only known official VHS German Käfer Cup video!
It's a cup race from 1993 in Wuntsdorf Airfield with comments by Klaus Morhammer.

regards from austria,
Walter
Luftboxer Volkswagen Club
http://www.luftboxer.com

kafercup

February 10th 2004, 14:23

Do you have the equipment to convert it to digital and record it on CD-ROM?

PLEASE!!!!

QUOTE=Typethree]Hi there,
I own the only known official VHS German Käfer Cup video!
It's a cup race from 1993 in Wuntsdorf Airfield with comments by Klaus Morhammer.

regards from austria,
Walter
Luftboxer Volkswagen Club
http://www.luftboxer.com[/QUOTE]

Sandeep

February 10th 2004, 15:01

:clap:
So how do we go about getting a copy ?!?!?! :D :D

I would really like that !!

Thanks

Sandeep

Alex

February 10th 2004, 16:33

If I can get a copy of that VHS tape I can convert it to NTSC and then afterwards get it digitized.

Alex

Typethree

February 10th 2004, 17:46

hmm, I don't have the equipment to copy or convert it....

Superman

February 10th 2004, 22:41

Are not European VHS tapes on PAL format and American tapes on NTSC?

vw1303

February 10th 2004, 23:08

My brother is into video production he could transfer the digital files to cd or vhs. That would be amazing, I will pay to get those videos from austria. Please send us the videos.

Thanks

SilverBullet

February 11th 2004, 03:36

I'm in to buy vcd. :)

Alex

February 11th 2004, 05:10

hmm, I don't have the equipment to copy or convert it....

What I meant was if you can make me a PAL VHS copy of your video and send it to me I can then get the video converted to NTSC and afterwards digitize it to post it on the site. I can send you a copy then of the CD holding the MPEGs.

Alex

kafercup

February 11th 2004, 14:02

Alright, just let us know what this would cost you and i'm sure we'd all be glad to kick in a few bucks for this :laugh:

Typethree

February 11th 2004, 14:48

ok guys, shipping costs for the video tape from europe to canada or usa are 14 euros!
I can to this for you if I get the tape back with the expenses after someone of you copied and convert it!
Now I need an address from someone who make this job reliable!
I've had good deals with american guys before, so I hope you VW freaks don't disappoint me!

cheers, Walter
(sorry for bad english)

Sandeep

February 11th 2004, 16:01

I think the best bet is to ship it to Alex ? Looks like he's got the equipment.

I will pay for the shipping of the video back to Walter as well as reimburse Walter for his 14 euros shipping.

Sound like a plan ? :)

Sandeep

Superman

February 11th 2004, 16:59

The European PAL format VHS tapes will not work in an American NTSC VCR/Player. The best thing, and easiest for all, is to have Alex convert it.

Alex

February 11th 2004, 18:53

I will pay for the conversion. It is done by a shop in Toronto.

I will send you PM with my address.

Alex

boygenius

February 11th 2004, 20:25

I will pay for the shipping of the video back to Walter as well as reimburse Walter for his 14 euros shipping.

Why not make a copy of the original and send the copy to the USA. Thats a one way trip. Saves 14 euros on return shipping. :idea:

zen

February 12th 2004, 00:27

as long as it is done realtime as a minimum. quality loss is quick on tape. kind of like the movie multiplicity.

SuperRSi

February 12th 2004, 01:56

Almost any pro video can convert PAL to NTSC, and the cost is usually not that much. The real question is why not pay to convert it at the Euro end and then just send over the NTSC and we can have our way with it. Less than $20.00 for shipping and probably less than $50. to convert over there. I also can convert the video here in Texas if desired. I would be willing to pay for shipping and conversion if done here or there. The only thing to ask now is are we violating the original copyright and should we be paying some royalties on the rights to duplicate the video? After all the man did spend the time and money to make the original. Count me in on a copy either way.

Thanks,

Randy

Sandeep

February 12th 2004, 10:34

Good question ... how should we address this ? We all want to see some footage of racing VW's. :D

Sandeep

Typethree

February 16th 2004, 17:37

Video is on the way to canada!

Walter

Superman

February 16th 2004, 22:31

Thank You Sir :righton:

Sandeep

February 17th 2004, 10:31

I second that ! :agree: :clap: :raiseroof

Sandeep

oasis

February 17th 2004, 15:06

Now that the logistics are all figured out, I'd like to buy a copy. Any format is fine. :clap:

boygenius

February 17th 2004, 20:24

Great.... Just let me know how much I owe for a copy. :clap:

zen

February 17th 2004, 21:37

count me in. i didn't see resolution to the copyright issue. being a musician (somewhat of ex-musician as of a few months ago), i am a little biased in this area. it is only right that the copyright owner be aware and asked for approval and paid royalties. they are the ones that risked their dollars and sweat equity to get the thing made in the first place.

best way to handle is look at the packaging. the copyright owner must be listed. let me know if tracking down contact info is needed and i would be happy to help.

once contacted, they can either point out the proper way to purchase the video or if they are small time may even permit copying. the collection of royalties is the sticky part. they would have nothing but trust to rely on and that is why you don't see this happening much.

one bootlegging approach i have seen is the bottlegger makes, distributes and sells copies. they hold royalties in escrow for the artist to claim and even notate that info on the packaging. honest bootlegging...who'd da figured.

the other side of this is don't say a word, but don't charge anything but cost. still illegal, but at least it shows you are not tying to make a profit.

i have little morals though so either way count me in. :laugh:

kafercup

February 20th 2004, 16:21

Let's just get this video over here so we can feed the addiction :laugh:

Alex

February 20th 2004, 20:24

Once the video arrive I will try to contact the right people of the copyright issues.

Thanks for pointing this out Zen.

Alex

Sandeep

February 24th 2004, 11:58

Talked to Alex today .. THE VIDEO IS HERE !!! THE VIDEO IS HERE !!! :clap:

Thanks Walter !

Sandeep

kafercup

February 25th 2004, 14:55

Oh damn!!!!! I need it now. Hands shaking ..... mouth dry ....... must .... have ..... video ..... :laugh:

Wally

February 25th 2004, 15:34

Cool, I sure am interested as well.
(other) Walter

Racelook

February 26th 2004, 18:41

Cool, I sure am interested as well.
(other) Walter

And you'r not the only one :laugh: ..

Is there more info?
Where can I order?

Greetings Wiebrand (from Holland) :D

boygenius

February 26th 2004, 20:44

Let me know how much I owe for the video. :laugh:

MattKab

February 27th 2004, 17:52

I know atleast one VHS PAL copy is badly wanted in the UK!

DVD?

Matt

SuperRSi

February 28th 2004, 15:28

I am ready for the DVD or video. Let me know how much Alex. Remind me of this when I talk to you Monday.

Thanks,

Randy

Alex

February 28th 2004, 23:14

Okay....here is the deal.

I have the video and it is already converted to NTSC. I called Klaus Mohrhammer (SP?) to ask about copying it and putting it on the site.

He will have to research this because the material is owned by anther company that civered the DTM race series that time. The Kaefer Cup was running as a pre race for 3 times with the DTM.

I will call him at the end of next week to see what he can tell me.
He will also get me the contact info for Dr Gerold so maybe I can get some pics and info on his Divinol Racer.

Alex

brent

March 4th 2004, 15:37

Helo there,Im very interested in a copy of this tape also,I have emailed you direct Alex,got your details off Walter to which was very kind of him.
Could you guys please keep me in the loop.
Regards brent in NZ.

cs01_510

April 11th 2004, 16:21

Hello,

I am also interested in a copy of the tape.. actually forget it. Post it up for Download! LOL J/k

I am willing to buy it on VHS or DVD NTSC.. Just le tme know Price and shipping to 94602, CA. USA Hit me up at cs01_510@comcast.net

Thanks for the help,
CS

Wild Willy

May 2nd 2004, 11:48

Me too!!!! Me Too!!!! I'll buy a copy on DVD if there is one, and I'm in Australia. Just need to know how much. I know a couple of people who would want one too. Yee Hah!!!!!!

Mikey 1972GL

May 2nd 2004, 17:48

ME TOO!!! i wanna copy of the tape :D

VHS or DVD, either way....

Mike

kafercup

July 21st 2004, 23:05

I need a copy of the videos also. Just let me know what I owe you. ;)

Sandeep

July 22nd 2004, 10:35

Guys,

It looks like we have a copyright issue ... we can't get ahold of the producer of the original tape to ask if we can make copies. Looks like we're at a standstill until we can get this approval.

Sorry.

Sandeep

73notch

August 2nd 2004, 02:35

i say you just post it up for download.

volkdent

August 7th 2004, 10:17

Just to be the devil's advocate here, I'm guessing the original recording was more to record history than to make a ton of money. Second, this was apparently the ONLY official copy of the tape, so nobody has done ANYTHING with this tape for 10 YEARS! There must be some sort of statute of limitations for this whole thing. Finally, we are not talking about some sort of mass production, we are talking about limited production for private viewing. GL VW bugs are not nearly as popular as we would like to think. We are talking about niche car racing. I'm sure not even the guys in the races were contacted about being videotaped originally, but again, not a big deal. I think it would be great to see an old clip. Just my 2 cents.

Jason

SuperRSi

August 8th 2004, 18:12

I would think you have done due diligence in contacting those involved. If your reason for duplication and distribution is driven by the desire to preserve the historical medium and not to make any profit, it probably is not a legal case anyone would look twice at anyway. Piracy issues are pursued because the pirate is profiting from the duplication. I agree this is not something that anyone would presume has a wide market and therefore you are not diluting the future profitabilty of the films. It also is not inexpensive to pursue the piracy issue in court and in this case would certainly not be worth it by the original author. So I would say as long as the duplication was a labor of love, then no issues. How many people want copies 10-20? Even at a retail sales price of $50. for a tape/DVD the original author would make a whopping $450 to $900! Trust me you cannot talk to an attorney here without first giving him a retainer of $1-2,000. so the author would start out losing a grand.

Only my opinion...

Thanks,

Randy

73notch

October 10th 2004, 01:06

if you need a place to host it, i might have space.

Vincent

October 10th 2004, 01:38

wow some how i missed this tread... so what is the status of the tape? has it gone missing? can you atleast post a "preview" on the multimedia section?

kafercup

October 10th 2004, 20:26

If you've tried to contact them to no avail, then I think you've done your duty. If you are copying these for the cost of materials and time and not for"profit" then I doubt there will be an issue. I've been trying for 10 years to get material like this from over there from folks like Klaus Morhammer. The material is just not available. Please help those of us out that are dedicated to this style of tuning and let us have this bit of our history as a point of reference. :) :agree:

SuperRSi

October 10th 2004, 21:13

Maybe Alex could send them to me so I can view and make a copy to preserve the media for future generations. An archive of sorts...

Perhaps we should archive them in at least thirty locations around the world to hedge against natural disasters...

This would not be done for profit or resale.

Thanks,

Randy

boygenius

October 10th 2004, 22:07

I would be willing to gaurd one of those copies in my DVD vault. :laugh: :agree:

73notch

October 10th 2004, 22:30

put it up on kazaa for a day or so, just let us know when haha. i wont tell if you dont.

Vincent

October 11th 2004, 02:24

less talk lets get to watching no fair that one or two of you have seen this footage.... waaaa i want to see too :)

Vincent

October 13th 2004, 23:36

Hey i found these videos online check them out here (http://www.vfsvideos.co.uk/beetles.htm)

Eric Happy Meal

October 19th 2004, 01:25

wow, still no luck on this!? bummer.

SuperRSi

October 20th 2004, 00:11

So Alex how about the loaner program?

Thanks,

Randy

cs01_510

December 29th 2004, 22:44

hello,

any sucess in contacting the original producer or whoever has the rights to these? Other sites have historical content (ie Datsun Roadster community) like books and what not fully converted to PDF form. This is of course with the authors consent... why must we suffer! ;) j/k

--Cat

eisblau

December 31st 2004, 13:58

The Käfer-Cup was organized by Klaus Moorhammer and Hubert Hottinger. Hubert Hottinger sells part time (?) Porsche Parts, this year I saw him at the Bitburg Racetrack (DAS Drag Day).
Some Käfer Cup cars now race at the Divinol Cup (Race Series), I remember the Raschig team, Dirk Torwesten... Other race in their spare time 4-6 times a year at the DSK (Deutscher Sportfahrer Kreis = German Sportsdriver Community) "freies fahren" (Free driving) at the Hockenheimring, Nürburgring Grand Prix Race Track or the Nordschleife. The event "freies fahren" is for private drivers, everybody can attend and show his/her skills... This year I saw 2 bugs and 1 VW Bus with 993 engine driving.

Maybe the German company "MPS-Medien Post Shop, 45678 Herten" sells Käfer-Cup Videos, BUT I don't know if this company still exists. They advertised in a magazine called "VW Scene".

At May 1st, there will be the "Maikäfer Treffen", with about 1000 cars, a really big swap meet, many dealers (GWD, Knuf, CSP) and the VW Speed, VW Scene & WOB magazine - may be I find there videos or meet Klaus Moorhammer, Hubert Hottinger or someone of the German VW press...

I have a video where three T3 VW busses with Porsche engines (993, 996) race against each other at the Hockenheimring, but it is 370 MB Mpeg big...

Norbert

justdubbin

December 31st 2004, 19:05

I have a video where three T3 VW busses with Porsche engines (993, 996) race against each other at the Hockenheimring, but it is 370 MB Mpeg big...

Norbert

Norbert I have heard of these T3 busses, I have been told that some of the drivers power slide their busses around some of the corners at up to 100MPH.. about 160 KPH (I don't know how true this is)

I would love to see this Mpeg :D

eisblau

January 1st 2005, 02:40

justdubbin

January 1st 2005, 17:32

Yes, you heard it right! The Porsche busses are really fast up to 230km/h and sometimes even more. Last year I had the opportunity to drive the silver one on the pictures attached on the autobahn (motorway?), you have to concentrate very much. You are from the UK right? Maybe you have seen us at the Volkworld Show 2002, where we were invited by Ian McCuttcheon. On the way back to Germany, my friend got a speeding ticket in Belgium, he drove 100km/h more than allowed

I didn't get chance to go to Volksworld 2002

I could burn the video on CD and send it to you, but may be someone have got the time and know how to put this video on this web site, I also have a lot of pictures from some european VW shows...

A CD would be fantastic how much Euros for it?,
I don't know how to load the video to the web :confused: Zen might be able to point you in the right dirrection maybe?

On the attached pictures:
The silver bus (Carrera Bus) is equipped with a 993 300HP engine with 993RS gearbox, on the 2nd picture you see from l to r: Silver carrera bus as above, Bus from swiss with 993 carrera engine and a camper with complete 996 engine, gearbox and brakes.

Norbert
The silver bus looks familiar, was it built by...Clare (sp) the specs on these busses are crazy.... but good :D

My 71 Baywindow will have a similar spec when finished.

I already have 2004 996 Turbo brakes (Big Reds front & rear, 340 x 34mm discs fr & r :laugh: )

I plan on fitting a 3.6 993 engine & tiptronic g/box (I need the tiptronic because I'm a cripple ;) )

I just have to wait for the ££££££££

zen

January 1st 2005, 17:56

II don't know how to load the video to the web :confused: Zen might be able to point you in the right dirrection maybe?

370MB is pretty big. eisblau, if you want to send it to me on CD, i can look at pulling some of it out in smaller junks to host. let me know and i will PM you where to send it and work out cost.

cs01_510

January 2nd 2005, 01:04

cripes! I want the vid(s)! I cant host it, but I sure can DL it in like 15 min... (Cable connection)

Too bad im in the US - Just let meknow when it becomes available... Also, thanks for those pix.

Thanks again,

--Cat

eisblau

January 2nd 2005, 04:53

-justdubbin
There is a connection to Claer: The silver one was build by Heinz Heymann, he is owner of a body shop and does the paintwork on the Claer busses. They know each other well. The white bus from Switzerland, I`ve forgotten the name of the owner, is completely build without the help of Claer, but it was a former Oettinger WBX6 3,6 I think the owner runs a VW dealership. The red camper was build by the owner himself, a pilot at Lufthansa, but at the Claer's workshop.
I think, but I don't really know, the camper has got the 996 Tiptronic, maybe the swiss one too, but I never drove with them. In summer I might see them again, then I will ask and if you want, I do some detail pictures.
CD is no problem, inside Europe I can afford the price for postage, just send me your address.

-zen
If you like I can send you a CD, better DVD, with the Mpeg Movie and lots of pictures from European and German car shows, you can use it for the gallery. I think I've got some more very short movies which I've taken with my photocamera. Maybe you can shorten the movies to make them downloadable. Just write me a mail with your address.

-cs01_510
The easiest way, I think, would be to put the little movie on a web page. If zen likes my idea of sending him a CD/DVD he might put it on the germanlook.com page. ´

Norbert

boblebaard

January 2nd 2005, 13:53

You could try contacting these guys!

http://www.v-dubsvideo.com/

boblebaard

January 2nd 2005, 13:54

Here`s a teaser....

http://www.v-dubsvideo.com/InterVideo/20luft%204,38mb.wmv

Racelook

January 2nd 2005, 20:14

It doesn't work with me

Wiebrand

boblebaard

January 3rd 2005, 05:31

Sorry bout that! Seems like it`s down at the moment. :bawling:

MattKab

January 3rd 2005, 06:51

It crashed my poota :(

Atleast we're getting somewhere! :D

justdubbin

January 3rd 2005, 21:10

dirk.Gysbrechts

January 4th 2005, 02:33

I have 10 pictures of the cars from the kaefer cup,taken when the where in Belgium on the race track...Will i post them here??

eisblau

January 4th 2005, 06:45

Hi Norbert,

I have sent you a P.M. with my address, I'm sorry I haven't contacted you earlier but I had my first grandchild born on January 1st :D so I havent been online much.

I have had alook online for some more Claer buses, WOW his latest creations Clear CT/4 993 (http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=3255&artikel_seite=0&A_SESS=074e7e7b2150ae7642bc9a1bd9a7eea4) is unbleavable & probably THE ULTIMATE GERMAN LOOKER the world has ever seen.

I want one, now wheres that loto ticket :laugh:

p.s. the page is in Dutch and can be translated HERE (http://world.altavista.com/tr)

Hi!

If it is the same bus we are talking about, then it is R.I.P! The first built T4 with rear Porsche engine crashed and rolled over... I don't know whether it is repaired or a new one was build.
A friend of mine told me that there is another bus being build: A T4 crewcab with VW Phaeton V10TDI with the engine in the middle (Sorry I don't know the exact english word, but the engine is placed between the front and the rear axle). I don't know if it is Claer, but someone in this area. What I have heard is, that they having the problem finding a gearbox that is strong enough for the torque of nearly 1000Nm... I wished I had such problems and the money of course :D
Today, I will visit the post office, maybe have something to watch at the end of the week... :)

Norbert

zen

January 4th 2005, 09:03

I have 10 pictures of the cars from the kaefer cup,taken when the where in Belgium on the race track...Will i post them here??

dirk, you can send them to me and i can post them for you and maybe drop some in the galleries for long term looking. send them to webmaster@germanlook.com.

dirk.Gysbrechts

January 4th 2005, 12:58

ok, i will sent them to you "ZEN"

justdubbin

January 4th 2005, 13:27

Hi!

If it is the same bus we are talking about, then it is R.I.P! The first built T4 with rear Porsche engine crashed and rolled over... I don't know whether it is repaired or a new one was build.

:bawling: I hope no one was hurt.

A friend of mine told me that there is another bus being build: A T4 crewcab with VW Phaeton V10TDI with the engine in the middle (Sorry I don't know the exact english word, but the engine is placed between the front and the rear axle).

The English is ... mid-engined, just like a Porsche Boxter.

I don't know if it is Claer, but someone in this area. What I have heard is, that they having the problem finding a gearbox that is strong enough for the torque of nearly 1000Nm... I wished I had such problems and the money of course

Try Norbert Haug from Mercedes motorsport :laugh:

Today, I will visit the post office, maybe have something to watch at the end of the week... :)

Norbert

I will be waiting and excited ;)

Racelook

January 4th 2005, 14:48

p.s. the page is in Dutch WRONG :laugh: It in Deutsch, German.

Greetings an Dutchman ;)

justdubbin

January 4th 2005, 15:13

WRONG :laugh: It in Deutsch, German.

Greetings an Dutchman ;)

Oppps :o It was close................... D=Dutch, D=Deutsch :laugh:

Sorry for my mistake.

cs01_510

January 4th 2005, 16:34

dirk, you can send them to me and i can post them for you and maybe drop some in the galleries for long term looking. send them to webmaster@germanlook.com.

"Yes!" :bawling:

dirk.Gysbrechts

January 5th 2005, 02:30

here is a movie of the T4 Claer bus....watch and enjoy :cool:

http://www.caravelle.dk/film/porschet4.wmv

Chris Percival

January 5th 2005, 05:40

I have a video where three T3 VW busses with Porsche engines (993, 996) race against each other at the Hockenheimring, but it is 370 MB Mpeg big...

I friend of mine has this on DVD, its pretty cool.. He actually went to Hockenhiem to see them...

eisblau

January 6th 2005, 03:16

I friend of mine has this on DVD, its pretty cool.. He actually went to Hockenhiem to see them...
Does your friend went to Hockenheim with a dark blue T3? We talked to two guys from England. There is a 2nd video which was filmed out of the red camper with videocamera, but it was even bigger than mine!

Norbert

Chris Percival

January 6th 2005, 04:29

Yes, that might have been them, Chris and Charlie...

Wally

January 6th 2005, 04:39

Bit OT, but on www.luftboxers.com are - at the bottom on the link page - a few video's with one of the former Kaefer Cup cars (amongst them Kurt Hassmann's car) doing a 240 km/h pass at a Austrian circuit.
Very cool.

Walter

Chris Percival

January 6th 2005, 04:46

But without the 'S'.. :)

http://www.luftboxer.com/

Wally

January 6th 2005, 08:40

:o
Thanks Chris!

dirk.Gysbrechts

January 14th 2005, 14:59

@ZEN ; I don't find the pictures off the kaefer cup cars on the site??

greetings

Dirk

zen

January 14th 2005, 17:36

@ZEN ; I don't find the pictures off the kaefer cup cars on the site??

greetings

Dirk

just put them up there. unfortunately it is not a trivial task to format pics to the right size and get them posted...much less finding any spare time. :D

look in the general gallery. thanks for sending them in!!!!

beetlecupdriver

February 10th 2005, 08:17

These may be of interest if your into circuit racing.

From the Big Boys Toys Beetle Cup in the UK, cars were only 1641cc not the fastest but excellent racing.

http://www.vfsvideos.co.uk/beetles.htm

Think i'm in there some where.

kafercup

April 12th 2005, 13:33

What's going on with this Kafer-cup video????? Let's get this darn thing out to the GL die-hards!

kafercup

September 13th 2005, 18:41

:( ???? Anyone?

Superman

September 14th 2005, 01:32

I'm interested too, the only problem is that those will be in PAL format and we need NTSC for North America.

kafercup

September 14th 2005, 01:57

Just get them to me and i'll take care of the conversion! Dammit!! I need these ! :help:

Superman

September 14th 2005, 03:13

Derek, is that you? :cool:

LOAF

September 14th 2005, 08:59

Sitll Interested !!!!

The suspense is killing me :)
Alex

kafercup

September 15th 2005, 23:40

Yup, it's me Derek :)

cabrio1303

November 7th 2005, 17:16

Hello friends,

you're asking for videos from Käfer-Cup (the race-series has become a new name: boxerpokal) ?
Her they are (sorry page is only in german):

Boxerpokal-Page (http://www.boxerpokal.de)

look for
'Bilder/Videos' /Videos von den Rennen for Videos;
'Bilder/Videos' /Bilder Saison 2005 for Pictures;
or in The Archive /Saison 2004/Bilder/Videos.

Enjoy them.
aircooled greetings from germany
Frank
www.cabrio1303.de (http://www.cabrio1303.de)

Wally

November 8th 2005, 15:30

Hello Frank,

I saw it before :D ; you guys have a very cool site (although the music is very ennoying :p ) and very inspiring race-cup!
Thanks for sharing!

Does one of the participants still drive an 'old' Overfly engine from Holzapfel? I would love to see one up close someday.

Herzlichen Grüss,
Walter

cabrio1303

November 8th 2005, 17:15

Hi Walter,

Thomas Wöhr has a 2.9l Holzapfel engine in his white 1303 Superbeetle.

See his white bug Nr. 493 on www.boxerpokal.de at 'Bilder Saison 2005 /Bergrennen Schleiz/'
or in season 2004 in Monza

'luchtgekoelde groeten uit duitsland'
frank

Bebobug

February 8th 2006, 01:06

I can't get the 'bilder to work on boxerpokal I don't know German but, I think it is under construction.

beetlecupdriver

February 10th 2006, 05:57

Only has one race on it filmed at Lydden Circuit (best bit on the whole video)

Worth a look

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/oldbeetlecupdriver/Misc%20VW/6734.jpg~original

Bebobug

February 11th 2006, 01:02

My bad, if you go to archive first then you can watch the videos. I went to Bilder/Videos & that is where I got mixed up. :confused:

73notch

August 17th 2007, 19:09

can someone just post it on google video or youtube?

volkdent

December 20th 2007, 02:01

Found these just to keep you guys happy...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EPr4nM2LrLQ&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=msjX0ZyRRzE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7tNZ84hjQ&NR=1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XThBEKlp-oI&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oC5L7z-RKhY&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pegKkI9ROF0&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kq7wh5hZFzU&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3o6k85dZfA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27TCHnKbH4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGmKg-7Lu4w&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZy60KEVzqI&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SBTuU3469l8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28_1NWFtPnE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4sDmWqBoc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woqiFrnZqvE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzGrRyC3Wr4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYSu-hRyYwY&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=H774RE-CMFA&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B6rPlx1kFBQ&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTt7Altdvl8&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5d81wfJ5A&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TrpAfTVDFsE&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6r1Unv9L39k

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DragsterBenni

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vFGQcQadWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI0ozepTKI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fBWtITOZ_M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47PDoOHJjz4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeUtPS_fbc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYuQGplVRdY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA2YDDy88LY&feature=related

No, they're not all original cup races, but I think you'll enjoy.

Gosh, do I have to do everything, geeeez!!!!

Jason