Big Reds on cb dropped BJ spindles

[Sandeep]

Finally got my setup installed on the passengers side, will do the drivers side this weekend.

I've used cb dropped BJ spindles, bearing spacers, 87 944T hubs, 322x32mm 993TT rotors with adapter hats and custom caliper adapters I designed and had machined by www.vdubcustoms.com.

Wilwood 25.4mm MC (f) and 22.22mm MC (r) with bias bar and remote bias adjuster complete the package.

The setup looks KILLER ! :D I have one minor problem though ... the crossover tube on the caliper "slightly" rubs up against the lower balljoint. It looks like I just have to flip this tube and I will have enough clearance. Will determine on the weekend though.

Pics to follow.

Sandeep

[volkdent]

Sounds good. Can't wait for the pics!

Jason

[Sandeep]

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/100_3197.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/100_3198.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/100_3199.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/100_3200.jpg

Now just need to get some brake pads, install the pad retainer springs, and get the fenders and bumpers painted and this bug is on the road. :agree:

Sandeep

[4SPEED]

yessssss it's beautiful :agree:

It's possible to have photo of pedals and MC???? :D

congratulation for this adaptation!!! but the brake pad exceeds disc?no??

Alex

[boygenius]

Very nice set-up you got there. :agree:


I keep telling myself that all I need is some single pot 944 calipers but it's so hard to resist the big reds... :laugh:

[Sandeep]

The third picture is a little deceiving. I fitted the pads and the rotor is about 1mm above the top of the pads, so I have full pad contact.

Sandeep

[bugsoup]

Sandeep

Very nice setup. I am envious that yours is built and mine isn't.

I have a few questions for you that will help me get mine done:

1. How did you go about getting VDubCustons to make those caliper brackets?
2. I have access to alot of CAD programs, which format do they use when drawings are required?
3. How much did they cost to have made?

[zen]

nice Sandeep. be sure to send me pics for the gallery (or post them yourself :D).

[boygenius]

Sandeep

1. How did you go about getting VDubCustons to make those caliper brackets?



Just send them an e-mail. I had them make my front brake kit for my beetle. It's the 944-S kit featured on their website. Check out thier website and contact them from their. www.vdubcustoms.com

[bugsoup]

Just send them an e-mail.

Thanks

Its good to know that they are so cooperative.

[boygenius]

I usually got a responce in a day or two. Real nice place to do business with. :D

[petevw]

Sandeep,

took a look at mine the other day and i see how the nut on the spindle is held on by very few threads. is yours the same?

could you take a pic of the "face" of the rotor? or this spindle nut? i'm a little worried of it coming off.

later,
pete

[Mikey 1972GL]

:eek: ........ nice setup :D :agree:


Mike

[Sandeep]

Give Lanner a call @ vdubcustoms. He'll set you up and advise as to what he needs.

Pete,

I've already greased the bearings and installed the dust cap and the setup is mounted on the bug so can't take pics of the spindle nut. Check the brake galleries and you'll see a pic of my first setup (944T). The hub assembly is the same and I used an aftermarket spindle nut and got all threads on except maybe one ? I found my original spindle nuts and they measure about 4mm thinner than the aftermarket ones, so I used those instead and I get all threads on the spindle nut to engage.

Hope that helps.

Sandeep

[Sandeep]

Here's a pic with the wheel on. The brakes look small :laugh: but thats an 18" front wheel ;)

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/100_3215.jpg

:D

Sandeep

[petevw]

The hub assembly is the same and I used an aftermarket spindle nut and got all threads on except maybe one ? I found my original spindle nuts and they measure about 4mm thinner than the aftermarket ones, so I used those instead and I get all threads on the spindle nut to engage.

Hope that helps.

Sandeep

cool,

where do i find these?

thanks,
pete

[Sandeep]

I was adjusting my brake setup last night and thought I would see how the rotors fit with the original brake hats instead of the custom hats. The original hats push the rotor out toward the fender lip by an adittional 6mm (1/4"). This actually works better for me because my front wheels (18x8.5 et 52) rub on the lower trailing arm at full lock.

So, if you use stock 993TT rotors including the stock hats, the increase in track on each side over stock drums, is 28mm (1.10"), with the special adapter hats, the increase is 22mm (0.866").

this takes into account the 6.35mm (1/4") increase per side that the dropped spindles provide.

Hope this helps someone.

Sandeep

[Sandeep]

Well, I took the bug for its first drive of the summer last night to make sure there was nothing wrong and to test the brakes ... All I can say is UNBELEIVABLE !!!

I can adjust the bias from locking the fronts only to locking the rear only and the braking power is unreal. I would compare JUST the fronts to being equivalent to my original 4 wheel drums. When I dial in the rears and brake HARD, I feel my glasses trying to leave my face ! :D

The pedal feels a little harder than the stock setup ( from what I can remember) but not by much and driving around the subdivision, it feels like I have stock brakes.

I'm still bedding in the pads (PRB Metal Masters) but I did about 12 stops from about 100Kph to 0 driving about 500m between stops and then got out and felt the rotors and calipers .... The calipers were warm to the touch and the rotors were hot, by hot I mean, I could touch them for about 3-4 seconds before I had to remove my finger.

It looks like I have "Fade Free" brakes now but the real test will be when I take it to the track ... REALLY looking forward to that.

Sandeep

[BigPhattyVW]

Man I thought Id never be able to fit those beauties on my 69!!

Life is good

Anyways I was wondering how you came up with the bracket to mount the calipers on. I dont think it was one long trial and error game so how did you do it?

Thanks
Clint

[Panelfantastic]

Sick, absolutely sick! (and slick) :D

[Sandeep]

I got a peice of plastic block from a local plastics company (same stuff cutting boards are made of) and shaped it with a dremel to get it close to specs. I then send the dimensions to www.vdubcustoms.com to get the adapters machined out of aluminum. I then measured and drilled the bolt holes to match the calipers and mount them on the spindle.

This job was custom in every way so I don't have any dimensions to give out.

Sandeep

[BigPhattyVW]

Thats mad cool!!

Hey, when you reinstalled the normal size rotor hat, did that stop the wheels from rubbing on anything? Ive been looking for 18 wheels with a 7.5 or 8" width, but man thats hard to find a cool wheel like that unless its a 17. Im glad to hear someone has successfully installed one of those in a bug two! Your just a installing machine arent you!!

Peace
Clint

[BigPhattyVW]

Hey quick question.

What type of calipers are you using? I know that they are big reds but for what year and type of Porsche are they for? Did you get them from the dealership as well as the other parts or did you do the e-bay route? Thanks for the info!

Clint

[VRSICK]

Well, I took the bug for its first drive of the summer last night to make sure there was nothing wrong and to test the brakes ... All I can say is UNBELEIVABLE !!!

I can adjust the bias from locking the fronts only to locking the rear only and the braking power is unreal. I would compare JUST the fronts to being equivalent to my original 4 wheel drums. When I dial in the rears and brake HARD, I feel my glasses trying to leave my face ! :D

The pedal feels a little harder than the stock setup ( from what I can remember) but not by much and driving around the subdivision, it feels like I have stock brakes.

I'm still bedding in the pads (PRB Metal Masters) but I did about 12 stops from about 100Kph to 0 driving about 500m between stops and then got out and felt the rotors and calipers .... The calipers were warm to the touch and the rotors were hot, by hot I mean, I could touch them for about 3-4 seconds before I had to remove my finger.

It looks like I have "Fade Free" brakes now but the real test will be when I take it to the track ... REALLY looking forward to that.

Sandeep


What exactly did you use to have the brake bias selectable? I just got those same brakes, and i'm following your tutorial to put them on my 70 standard. I'm still looking for some info on how to get the rears on there, your tutorial only shows the front. But back to the brake basis thingy, thats really cool! And you post here makes me more and more excited to get my *** in gear and put those bad boys on!!!! :D

[BigPhattyVW]

I was wondering the same thing when I looked at Sandeep's post. I remembered that he got most of that stuff from Wilwood. So I took a look at their website and all of that stuff is there! I believe its www.wilwood.com
Yeah thats right! I just tested it

[vuitton356]

my brackets are done and I have to get a master cylinder. I looked at wilwoods site but am not sure about exactly which mc to use, a part number would be great. is a 1 inch piston the best for these 4 piston claipers

[vuitton356]

still can't find the master cylinder you guys are talking about. I found one that is 1 1/16 inch that looks like it would work. some photos of your master setup would be great. I would share pics of my stuff

[Ephry73]

That is a lovely setup Sandeep. Lovely indeed. What grade material is this aluminium?

Would be nice to see a pic of the bias valve adjuster and the rear brake setup.


Thanks for sharing.



Ephry