View Full Version : Progress with my 996 brakes!
ricola
July 19th 2005, 15:30
Got the rears made up now.
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/rear_996_brakes.JPG
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/rear_caliper_adapter.JPG
I'm using one of Lanner's 944 ebrake kits.
Couple of pics of the front hubs on my site too. Only the front caliper adapters to make now which should be easy :D Then I just hope that the stock master cylinder will be up to the job!
Rich
volkdent
July 19th 2005, 17:32
Hey Rich,
What MC are you using? I'm sure you'll end up with a great setup, and I'll probably be copying you, so I need to get all the details!
Jason
ricola
July 20th 2005, 17:04
I'll try the stock one first, if that's no good I'll use a golf 22mm one...
Rich
ricola
July 21st 2005, 15:47
I knew it was going too easily... I have just been measuring up for the front adapters but the caliper won't go fully onto the disc, the pad is fouling the spindle caliper mount
This is far on the caliper goes, I need another 2-3mm to centralise the pad
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/front_trial_fit_brakes.JPG
The back:
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/caliper_foul.JPG
Looking at old threads it seems Andreas (Typ Vier) got away without this problem as he has bigger discs for his 6 pots, although I have found about the same measurements for the adapters, I haven't measured the offset of the lugs on the front caliper though (holes in caliper and offset relative to the pad centres)...
I guess I will have to clearance the spindle about 3mm (maybe the pad plates slightly too) unless anyone else has found a solution?
Rich
beet
July 23rd 2005, 18:07
At the front, you must use porsche 944Turbo 1987 HUBs, with porsche NON turbo spindles, make bearing spacers and make a similar caliper aluminium brackets like rears. With your superbeetle DISCS spindles the 996 wonīt work.
ricola
July 24th 2005, 09:29
I've decided to cut down the superbeetle caliper flange a bit and redrill the holes further in and spotface further back. That should give a simple caliper adapter like the rear one...
I'll get pics once I have some progress...
Rich
beet
July 24th 2005, 19:05
I thought the same, But I donīt do that because the SB spindles are special, There is very few and they cost a lot of money!!
And in case someday I wish to go back to the factory discs
ricola
July 25th 2005, 03:44
I won't be going back to stock and I don't think the disc spindles are that hard to get hold of in the UK even if I did :D
Rich
ricola
July 26th 2005, 17:22
finalised the front design now...
Spindle after skimming but before new holes are tapped and clearancing for brake pads:
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/spindle_mod.JPG
Finished assembly:
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/front_adapter_fitted.JPG http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/front_brakes.JPG
Just have to tap the other spindle now and then I'll strip everything down for painting. I'm fitting all new front bushes now too, to get rid of the shimmies :D
Rich
mikko k
July 31st 2005, 16:17
Looking great! Way to go! :righton:
bug-er
July 31st 2005, 18:34
what disks are they on the front???
who did your cross drilling??
ricola
August 1st 2005, 03:25
I've been sidetracked with refurbishing the suspension arms and house DIY this weekend. Over the next couple of days it will go back on the car...
Front discs are 996, they come cross-drilled as standard. For all the details go to my website.
Rich
bobgsinsung
August 1st 2005, 15:15
Just getting all the parts together for my upgrade now, and am unsure of wether to go for 996 rear calipers all round. using a carrera 3.2 disc up front. I already have four rear calipers already and want to know if anybody could forsee any probs.
ricola
August 2nd 2005, 16:39
Fronts are finished now...
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/front_996_fitted.JPG
just the rears to assemble and then hope the stock master cylinder is up to it.
Rich
VWader04
August 7th 2005, 22:25
what is the part # for the kershcer struts for late model superbeetle
ricola
August 8th 2005, 05:52
http://www.kerscher-tuning.de/cgi-bin/shop.pl?page=frameset.html&shopid=1123494517709
is the page on hte kerscher site, there are the early and late versions bis 73 and ab 73, I think that's the order, just use babelfish on the site. You can always check when you order, they speak good English...
Rich
ricola
August 14th 2005, 10:05
All on now!
sleeve to adapt bug handbrake cable (from Lanner):
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/hbrake_adapter_sleeve.JPG
swan piece to connect bug cable end to 944 handbrake mechanism:
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/hbrake_adapter.JPG
Back on 4 wheels!
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/on_cups.JPG
Just need to make some longer brake lines for the rear and then I can fill/test...
Rich
ricola
August 22nd 2005, 03:45
Thought I'd update now it's finished :D
Test drove yesterday and the brakes are amazing. The bonus is that the stock master cylinder is fine and needs relatively low forces to get good braking (keeps the bug wife friendly too). The only reason I could think of to switch m/c would be brake balance but I don't know how mine is. I'm going to wait until the Subaru engine is in to get the correct ride height at the back (need more caster) and then re-assess.
http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/front_996.JPG http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/rear_996.JPG
Rich
oicdn
August 22nd 2005, 23:30
**** that's nice.....congrats dude...looks super sexy.....
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