Porsche-Style rear wing

[1200jubi]

Hey guys!


I´d like to give my 85er Bug a rear wing like the one of porsche. (Pictures in the Word-Document) It should be convertible like this one. Can anybody help me, where I can get the Parts or some ideas?


Thanks a lot your 1200jubi

[LOAF]

Very nice and interesting way of getting some down force..

More info please..
Alex

[1200jubi]

I´m looking for somebody, who made this once again or who made these pictures.

yours 1200jubi

[Racelook]

The red one is from
http://www.carotta.com/

Wiebrand

[1200jubi]

Hey Racelook!

thanks for this information.

yours 1200jubi

[kleinporsche]

I'm afraid to ask...how does it cost? :o

[LOAF]

Site is not to useful, anyone else have more info on the wing..

Was curious as to how it was grafted on.. I personally love this thing... sleek, sleep and who know maybe functional..
Alex

[turboL]

beetleraceing.com have a gt2 style wing,not very good shots on site but they have better photos if you ask for em it has an adjustable top wing and huge scoopes for added air flow to engine bay.

[SuperRSi]

The last time I talked via email to Carotta about fiberglass parts they would only sell the whole car, glass and all...

Thanks,
Randy

[GL-Aussielooker]

I am looking at doing something like these 2. Also looking for info on these set ups.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Zachsayre/0107.jpg~original

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Zachsayre/0462.jpg~original

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Zachsayre/test_5.jpg~original

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Zachsayre/test8.jpg~original

[chug_A_bug]

I would love to do the same kinda thing too any info would be great :)

[bow]

ii want to know where to get the body kit off that red car

[LLVWGL]

correct me if i am wrong, but the "body kit" off of the red car is porsche 993 bumpers that have been molded to the vw body.

[bow]

ahhh ok thanks

[chug_A_bug]

oh that red one it sweet if you go to

http://www.20thstreetauto.com/

you can get porsche parts from recks, I have already looked into 96 911 front and rear bumper covers just waiting for an email to fined out how $$$$
I'll let you know.

[LLVWGL]

I have seen that place, but on their site it seems a little pricey.

[GL-Aussielooker]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Zachsayre/0107.jpg~original

The parts for the motorized spoiler run $650.00 american from 20th street auto. But I found them for $500.00 from here (http://www.911pcar.com/)

[lowbox]

I know it's kind of old school but I still like this one and it only cost $ 350.00 http://www.creativecarcraft.com/_borders/ttpartwb.jpg

[Steve C]

beetleraceing.com have a gt2 style wing,not very good shots on site but they have better photos if you ask for em it has an adjustable top wing and huge scoopes for added air flow to engine bay.

Hi

Im not sure how much downforce you will get with that movable wing, I think it would really help with air into motor


This is the beetle racing one that Im going to use on my car.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/GT2front.jpg

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/GT2rear.jpg

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/GT2side.jpg

[oasis]

Has anyone done a study to see if any of these promote downforce?

All of them look too low on the Beetle's downsloping tail end to be effective to me (unless the downforce is more weight oriented than aerodynamics).

[Scotts73SB]

I like the looks of em... It doesnt bother me if it actually works or not. I love that 930 and Carrera and the GT-3 look. My dream is to own a 930 3.3 Liter one day....

[oasis]

I like the looks of em... It doesnt bother me if it actually works or not.

My question on whether it was functional or not was not meant to be construed as a put-down or a put-down if the answer was no. I tossed the question out there because Steve C is a racer and we have other racers on this site, and I was hoping someone in the know would be able to satisfy my own curiosity. Anything read between the lines with my question is done with pure imagination.

[Scotts73SB]

Oasis I didnt take it in the least as a put down.. in fact...if someone did find out if it worked that would be great.
Steve and the guy with the Subaru engine that has a big wing could probably tell us. Im glad you asked actually... wasnt sure how to bring that up.
My only hope is that it doesnt INcrease lift in the rear.

[oasis]

Oasis I didnt take it in the least as a put down

I'm glad. I seem to have gotten under some people's skin lately for no legitimate reason and I have become overly sensitive about it.

[Steve C]

Hi

The wing on the race car is the same as mine. The guy who owns the race car is Richard Holzl, he made the wing, he is big als dad and owns VForce racing/ Beetle racing .com

I dont have my car going yet but I expect to gain down force with the wing. The main reason that I fitted it was for cool air intake to air cleaner, it will reach the air cleaner via the side scoops.

Steve

[chug_A_bug]

THIS IS NICE :)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/chug_A_bug/gts_996wfx.jpg~original

[bow]

anyone know what the front bumper on this car is http://www.superbeetlesonly.com/forum/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=si&img=313

[chug_A_bug]

hey ya that whole body kit is from a porsche and custom to fit. that car is my dream car :)

[86svo]

Ok,I gave this a year before I posted to see if any progress was made in the spoiler on the red and silver cars on the first page,has anybody been able to do something similar on the bug?

Tim

[bow]

ya i toyed aroundwith it and use the workings off of a crysler cross fire but it proved to be too much time and money

[86svo]

Man your leaving me hanging here,did it work? what didnt you like about it,want to sell your parts?

Tim

[bow]

ya it worked but it cramped the motor area and the motor didnt cool very well the parts i used i got from a junkyard and i just tossed them when i was finished they were just small electric motors with gas shocks on them

[1200jubi]

Hey 86svo!

Thanks for the pictures - actually I have spoken to Mr. Carotta - he told me that he would make such a rear spoiler for me, but it would cost about € 1000,--!!!

Your 1200jubi ;)

[86svo]

I just picked up two complete rear motorized spoilers off ebay,pretty cheap.I feel sure I can have similar results as the red beetle on page one.I think I can make it work y using a MSD window switch with one rpm pill on the low side.Say the rpm pill on the low side is 1500 rpm,when the car is over 1500 rpm the window switch would send power and or ground to the spoiler....when the car was less than 1500 rpm the switch would cut power or ground.

Here the car I been working on for the wife.

Tim

[Wally]

This is what I did to an old 'duck tail', follwing the german style saying: 'form follows function' (BTW, its an air-air intercooler, NOT a radiator!):

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2250.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2249.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2252.jpg

[Sandeep]

Walter,

That looks amazing ! I know it will work as the intercooler placement is perfect. Let us know what the MAT is as I am debating the A/W IC for an A/A IC to circuit race with.

Thanks

Sandeep

[KAFUR1]

This is what I did to an old 'duck tail', follwing the german style saying: 'form follows function' (BTW, its an air-air intercooler, NOT a radiator!):

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2250.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2249.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/1303/100_2252.jpg
do you have any pic's with the duck tail off? being I have a duck tail .....:cool:

[Wally]

Walter,

That looks amazing ! I know it will work as the intercooler placement is perfect. Let us know what the MAT is as I am debating the A/W IC for an A/A IC to circuit race with.

Thanks

Sandeep

Thanks Sandeep!
Actually, the intake temperature is so low, I hardly dare believe it. I took the car for some 'test runs' (hehe) to see where the waste gate dumped and to check BOV operation (very cool, it sounds like a dolphin) and later checked MAT in the DTA (my ecu) log: it didn't even rose above ambient!
I checked temps by hand when I was out the car again and the intake side of the IC was slightly warm, but the other side was stone cold. In fact it seemed colder than ambient (20 degr C)...:shocked:
My temp sensor is screwed into the top of the left alu CB hat. I'll see if I can retrieve the log from the 300 km trip and maybe the dyno run (thats over an hour back, so that'll be doubtfull)
So, in this case: size (of the intercooler) DOES matter and it proved to me (although porsche did that many years ago already in their turbo intercooled cars) we don't need no stinking water!

For Kafur without the hood:
http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/68897.jpg

Walter

[BulletBug]

wally, is that a vw base engine or other makes engine??

thats a turbo right?:eekno:

i have a duck bill spoiler at home but never thought of it like this... super dude!!
really my cup of tea... care to share??

thanks..:D

[Wally]

Thank you for the nice comment!
Yes, its an aircooled vw make engine: the 'type 4' motor :cool:
Indeed, its a turbo, hence the intercooler ;)

[BulletBug]

Wally.. i know this is off topic but whats the difference between type 4 and 914... and DTM and upright cooling... can u share a bit...

[Wally]

Sure, but it would take a book to write all that...
Like I suggested in my PM to you, the best thing to do is to read into the matter. There's no other way imo unless you're very wealthy and can outsource everything.

[BulletBug]

sure2... i will fill my head first... hehe thanks bro!!:lmao:

[1badghia]

Is there anyone interested in the Porsche spoiler in the classified section that I listed?

[kuleinc]

Wow, these are RAD!