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Veedub

January 3rd 2007, 19:11

Which rim would be better top use w/o major modifications done to the rear. The frontend I know will need to be narrowed 2-4inches. I dont want to use porsche rims and thats all I noticed people use on here, I looked already.
This wheel has a +42mm offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=RG358SK&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Civic+CX+Hatchback&autoYear=1996&autoModClar=
this wheel has a +35mm offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=23135749SML&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Civic+CX+Hatchback&autoYear=1996&autoModClar=
this wheel has a +38mm
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=K3F502S&autoMake=Mitsubishi&autoModel=Mirage&autoYear=1995&autoModClar=

the thing Im not understanding is do I want +40 or more or is it -40 I want to look for when its not a porsche wheel?

volkdent

January 3rd 2007, 21:10

Veedub

January 4th 2007, 00:54

Someone else will answer as far as required offsets are concerned, my project is in another catagory so I don't know what works. I'll give you a big thumbs up on the Traklite 2.0, as they weigh nothing, it will greatly increase the way your car performs, and they are forged, so you'll never bend them. I think they also look the best too.

If you have more offset(+50mm), you can use a 10mm spacer(-10) to get back to +40, decreasing the track, but if you have +35, you have +35 as far as making the track any less, nothing you can do there except narrow the beam more. If you are close, it is nice to have a few mm extra offset so you can use spacers to space the wheel out to exactly where you want it depending on the tire manufacturer etc, that is if you like a snug fit. Remember that spacers require studs/nuts, or longer lug bolts, and they should always maintain the hubcentric nature.

Jason

ok so I dont want anything more than a +50mm offset but if I do, I need -10mm spacers but the same rims up front I would need to narrow it to be a +35 or is that what I want upfront? So would the narrowing be ok with a 2inch narrow or would i need to narrow it more?And yes Im trying to get a lightweight wheel, and the tracklites for some reason, thee price dont stay, it was 195$ each when I posted it, hmmm oh well, heres some others I was looking at
Has a +38 offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=TS005S&autoYear=1999&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&autoMake=Ford&autoModClar=&filterSize=15&autoModel=Escort+ZX2
another +38 offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=W0173120022MGS&autoMake=Geo&autoModel=Storm&autoYear=1992&autoModClar=
So I'd need a spacer to equal a +55 offset with these 2 sets right?
Also theres a rim called 5Zigen FNO1R-C, there available for FWD or RWD, they weigh 14lbs (ive held one, they feel lighter) and are available in 15-24" .Offsets for the RWD version is +33 and +42mm for the FWD version, there made from 1 piece lightweight aluminum casting,just only problem I got is would any of these wheels look right?
heres a pic of my car, and you guys can help me (please?)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5307/72beetle7jb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
its 2 toned, baby blue and almond white (similar to the VW stock offwhite)

oasis

January 4th 2007, 04:50

Veedub

January 4th 2007, 10:00

The BBS wheels are one-piece forged as well, and weigh only 2/10ths of a pound more (10.2 v. 10.0). They cost $100 more each, however.

So, stick with the Traklite wheels. You don't want wheels that look similar to mine. ;)

what wheels you got?
I was looking on ebay and I got shocked at the wheel prices, I sen some rims on there I like alot.
what you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/15-Rota-Slipstream-Circuit-8-Rims-Wheels-4x100-Civic_W0QQitemZ300064567424QQihZ020QQcategoryZ4395 5QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
there 12lbs and have a 40mm offset but look at the colors, I like the full polished steel grey in the Slipstream side, and steel grey in the others.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/15-INCH-DRAG-DR16-BLACK-WHEELS-4-X-100-GAB_W0QQitemZ300063790315QQihZ020QQcategoryZ43955Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
another set thats 12lbs 40mm offset and many colors but i like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/15-4x100-DRAG-DR20-BLACK-WHEEL-RIM-WORK-FOR-SCION-XA-XB_W0QQitemZ300066332024QQihZ020QQcategoryZ43955QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I like this set but there 15x7.5 (would that be a major issue?)they got a 38mm offset.
I may end up getting my rims off ebay. I like the first ones I posted in this post alot.
There light (but not 10lbs but thats fine) and the color would look good with my 2 tone car.

Rob

January 5th 2007, 10:03

Veedub

January 5th 2007, 11:00

I like the Kosei rims.....
If you are going with 15's you'll probably want to make sure you do not get a too 'thin' tire.

Here's what I have, and in order to make it look right I'd have to lower the car too much. (I can't go lower in the rear because of the sube motor)

http://www.vanbran.com/movies/bug/107_0760.AVI

I had to use spacers all around to keep some of the steering....
BTW, they are 15" Enkei rims.

Rob.
your bug looks good with those wheels, trouble i got is trying to find a rim that matches the 2 tone of my car, so a silver or high gloss black rim is what im thinking.
How wide are your rims? I was trying to stay with 15x6.5 or 7" wides if possible. Was there any modifications needed to be done or anything? I'm thinking bout getting the rota slipstreams maybe. What would be better, disc brakes or just keep the drum brakes? My motors stock for now and was thinking bout just staying with drums, they should be strong enough since im gonna run a lower profile tire up front than the rear, kinda like mix the cal and german look sort of.

Rob

January 5th 2007, 15:22

The rims are Enkei RP02 15x6.5 rims with Kumho 712 Ecsta Supra 205/50ZR15 Tires.

It was a major PITA getting it all fitted, but that was mostly my own fault since I didn't research things enough.

Of course I had to change the bolt pattern, so I initially ordered blank disks for the front. The machine shop butchered them drilling the holes, so after further investigation I found rotors with the correct pattern.
Then I need studs that were long enough...... then I needed tuner lugnuts that would fit the holes (you can't fit a socket around them).
When I finally had them mounted, I had virtually no steering left since the rims hit the frame on the inside, so then I had to get spacers....

So, I'd say you are on the right track by investigating things before you buy :D .

You'll need to get new drums for the new boltpattern, so you might as well fork out the cash and get the disks for at least the front.

Also look at the Rota SubZero.... I always loved those rims.

I also really like the ones you posted with the black spokes... mostly because they give you a nice 'lip'.

Hope this helps.

Rob.

Veedub

January 5th 2007, 21:56

Rob is your bug a standard or super beetle?What size spacers did you need for the front, and how far does a 15x6.5inch rim stick out if it does I mean.
Oh what you think of these wheels?
http://www.rotawheels.com/autox.php

Rob

January 6th 2007, 15:12

Veedub.... just noticed yours is a super....sorry, mine is a standard.

In any case, the spacers are about 1/2" :
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/347887335_e34a883ddc.jpg

In the front the wheels are sticking out this much:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/347887342_8e6860ce25.jpg

I'm not a big fan of wheels with the (real or fake) bolts around the rim. I like the wheels simple.
Rays Engineering's Volk TE37 is my favorite wheel (but expensive). They look a bit like the Rota Flight's that are in the link of your previous post.

Rob.

Veedub

January 6th 2007, 23:08

oasis

January 7th 2007, 02:28

what wheels you got?

Below is a BBS RX-II that was part of the Wolfsburg Edition Jetta circa 2000. They are 16x6½ et42.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5251/frntsidepf4.jpg

Here is what they look like. By the way, I have a 6mm spacer on the front and an 8mm spacer on the rear.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3669/rearqtrlh6.jpg

Veedub

January 7th 2007, 03:29

Below is a BBS RX-II that was part of the Wolfsburg Edition Jetta circa 2000. They are 16x6½ et42.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5251/frntsidepf4.jpg

Here is what they look like. By the way, I have a 6mm spacer on the front and an 8mm spacer on the rear.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3669/rearqtrlh6.jpg

I like that, its nice.So if I got a 15x6.5, the slipstreams(i like them the most) with the +40mm offset with a 6mm spacer up front and 8mm spacer for rear, they would sit that far from the fenders? Did you have to narrow the frontend (unless thats a super) if so how much? Im just gonna swap the drums for drums drilled out for 4-100 pattern, I dont need disc brakes since my motor is basically stock, an small diameter tires an drums stop pretty quick. Would 195/60's work on 15x6.5 or 7's sine I have pretty new tires thats Id like to just swap over?

Rob

January 7th 2007, 10:08

So you know, Rob, mine is a standard beetle also. Does the rear stick out at all?The frontend I could buy a narrowed beam for it to tuck the front wheels in.Maybe a 3inch narrow?

Sorry my bad :o

Anyway, they don't stick out in the back. I guess it's the disk conversion that makes 'em stick out more in the front (and the space of course).

I don't really need the spacer in the back, but I wanted the wheels to have at least somewhat the same position front and rear.

Rob.

Veedub

January 7th 2007, 10:19

Wow Im liking how the 15 and 16inch rims look on the bugs. Not really a fan of the bigger rims since they weigh more.I think Im gonna go with a 15x6.5inch rim also, since they seem to tuck in nicely, but I will use drums front an rear. I havent figured out how disc brakes on a bug is and upgrade, because there still manual brakes:D and I just dont think Id need the extra stopping power since my motor will be stock for a while.Eventually I may get a 1915cc for it but not anytime soon.
Just wondering are most the wheels with the 4-100 bolt pattern for fwd cars? I dont seem to see any for RWD cars.

Veedub

January 8th 2007, 01:43

I was told to go with 17's.But would my stock 1600cc be able to move thse size of wheels.Also to the guys that have 17's does your car rev up really high like how it does when u change the tire height in the rear?And I looked at the calculator in a topic, it says 40-55mm is ok for the 72 super beetle, would the same go for a standard bug?

oasis

January 8th 2007, 12:46

My car is a Super, so no narrowing.

Most cars I know that have the 4x100 pattern are water-cooled VWs and some Japanese makes. Those would be front wheel drive cars. There may be others, though.

The rear of a Super Beetle and a standard Beetle are identical for like years.

The front will require separate considerations. Be sure to consider inner rubbing of the tires as well as outer when calculating offset and narrowing.

I did a lot of measuring and calculating with my Super.

Veedub

January 8th 2007, 18:07

Yeah I found that the Mazda Miatas which are RWD have the 4-100 bolt pattern.Would you know what offset would be good to use for the frontend of a standard bug? Im just researching the idea of converting over to 4-100 bolt pattern. So for rear I'd want a rim with a +40-55mm offset.Would these be and ideal size and rim for the rear and frontend?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=16&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=JH6641BS&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=Miata&autoYear=1995&autoModClar=
Im not sure about the 7" width though. I was told a site that says what to do with 7" wide rims. I would have to trim some parts and do other modifications, is there another option for putting 16x7" wheels?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=16&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=W01748201BS&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=Miata&autoYear=1995&autoModClar=
these are 22lbs each so they might not be good for a stock 1600cc (with a header,exhaust,009, and 34pic carb).
I really like this wheel though(sorry oasis, not trying to copy you).
Only problem is there all 7" wide and I really dont wanna cut anything on my car.
Heres a 15" version of that rim though, its 15x6.5".
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=AR15I22SML&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=Miata&autoYear=1995&autoModClar=
For the front I figure Id probably need a 2" narrow, nothing major, right, unless a +40mm offset will tuck in the front fenders?I dont want my wheels/tires at the edge of my fender,just enough to be able to lower car 2-3inches front an rear.

Veedub

January 8th 2007, 18:09

oops i double posted sorry bout that

oasis

January 8th 2007, 22:59

I should have remembered the Miata as I considered that car before going with my Cabrio ... anyway, ...

The seven-inch wide wheel can work on the rear depending on offset. My 6½-inch wheel has an 8mm spacer, too. So, a little tweaking in offset differences (mine is 42mm) and you're there.

Don't know anything about standards, though. Someone else will have to step to the plate on that one for front end suggestions.

Oh, and you will be a one-of-a-kind in your own way if you imitate me. ;)

Veedub

January 8th 2007, 23:04

do you think i should go silver or black on the rim department, thats where im having trouble. i cant photoshop so i am out on that idea lol. what you think?

oasis

January 8th 2007, 23:08

Black is more "today" from what I am told, but I still favor silver. My daughter once told me I was "so two years ago." :rolleyes:

Veedub

January 8th 2007, 23:14

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5307/72beetle7jb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

this is my color combo, i know it looks ok with silver...but black is a questionable color:D

Veedub

January 9th 2007, 01:38

I am only curious, the rims I really like are these http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=16&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=AR16I22SML&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=Miata&autoYear=1995&autoModClar=
well they are available with a +45 offset, and a +38 offset, could I use the +38mm offsets up front and the +45mm offset rims in the rear?Also the only bad thing I guess bout them is there 16x7's.

Veedub

January 9th 2007, 22:48

I did a few photoshops of my bug, what you think bout the rims on my bug?
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8661/rotabug2nl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
with polished Rota slipstreams
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9264/rotabugtp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
black slipstreams ( except in a 4-100 bolt pattern)
I like both but dont know, what you guys think? black rims or silver?

ps yeah I know i cant photoshop, but at least I tried.

Veedub

January 10th 2007, 21:30

If I was to go with the porsche bolt pattern, and get Fuchs would I need spacers for front and rear like I would with the Rotas in the above post?
I was thinking of this after seeing what they look like and thinking bout the Fuchs in the chrome lip with Harbor blue (my bugs color) on the wheels where they are black.On cip1 they have them in a 15x5.5inch with a 4.5inch backspacing for front (would that be ok with a stock frontend?)And the rear....I dont really know, what would you guys run with stock fenders in rear?

Veedub

January 13th 2007, 11:11

Fuchs are crazy in prices:eek: I'll go back to the 4-100 plan...
:laugh: I think I basically decided I want a rim in the 14-16lb range. Anyone know if the stock 60hp motor can handle moving 15x7inch rims?
The wheels Im most likely going to get are Rota Slipstreams,ASA AR1's (there like oasis's rims)see link.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&autoYear=2000&filterFinish=&autoModClar=&filterSpecial=&autoMake=Honda&filterSize=&autoModel=Civic+DX+Coupe&initialPartNumber=AR15I22SML
or OZ Canova see link
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&showRear=no&filterSize=15&filterFinish=&filterSpecial=&initialPartNumber=W01749201BS&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Civic+DX+Coupe&autoYear=2000&autoModClar=
these are the 3 I mostly like, but cant decide.
Rotas got a 40mm offset,ASA AR1's have a 40mm offset and the OZ have a 45mm offset.
What rim would be best to use and require less modifications for the rear?
The front I know narrowing 2-3inches will be required along with drop spindles.

Veedub

January 17th 2007, 23:58

What about this...I been thinking my rims stuck out farther than I really thought they actually did.There 15x4.5inch rims (similar to Ansens) with 195/60/15's front and rear. How do you guys think it would look with fenders in the rear that are 1.25" wider and then narrow the frontend 2 or 3inches, enough to tuck them inside a little, not alot.Then Id be able to lower the front and rear enogh to where the tires tuck inside the fenders, not slammed but like 3-4inches, most likely 3inches in front and rear.
Im just playing with ideas...would you think that would look right, wide fenders in rear with 15x4.5inch rims with 195/60's?

they stick out and inch front and rear.

Veedub

January 21st 2007, 04:02

Since the current wheels wont work with disc brakes, im going to go with the stock chrome rims 15x5.5 up front and a widened version 15x7. the 15x7 is the stock offset and will fit under most fenders, but im going to run wider fenders in the rear.Now my question is, do they make a 195/50 and a 195/60 in raised white letter?if not i'll go with 195/50's up front and 195/60 in the rear.
:D

oasis

January 21st 2007, 04:13

I went to tirerack.com, and foung BF Goodrich tires on 225/60-15 is raised white letters. That was the best I could do. (I only spent two minutes there, though.)

Veedub

January 21st 2007, 09:14

I went to tirerack.com, and foung BF Goodrich tires on 225/60-15 is raised white letters. That was the best I could do. (I only spent two minutes there, though.)

Yeah thats all I could find on that site too.

Veedub

January 24th 2007, 00:34

What you guys think of these wheels?
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C32%2DCLP4
maybe like 195/50 up front and 195 or 205/60 in the rear.

fastdub

January 24th 2007, 09:48

What you guys think of these wheels?
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C32%2DCLP4
maybe like 195/50 up front and 195 or 205/60 in the rear.
For a GL ?

never

Veedub

January 24th 2007, 11:19

For a GL ?

never

My bugs not GL if you look at my thread in the other topic, the paint scheme isnt GL..:laugh:

oasis

January 24th 2007, 11:34

What you guys think of these wheels?
For a GL ? never
My bugs not GL
Well, this a GL site. You shouldn't be surprised when you ask for an opinion you will get a GL-biased one.

Those wheels look heavy to me but their actual weight is not listed from what I could see.

Outside the GL world, Centerlines are quite popular. I didn't like 'em years before I heard of GL. Then again, it is for your car so get what you like.

fastdub

January 24th 2007, 12:22

Well, this a GL site. You shouldn't be surprised when you ask for an opinion you will get a GL-biased one.

Those wheels look heavy to me but their actual weight is not listed from what I could see.

Outside the GL world, Centerlines are quite popular. I didn't like 'em years before I heard of GL. Then again, it is for your car so get what you like.

thats exactly what i was thinking

Veedub

January 25th 2007, 01:06

I know its a GL site but that shouldnt matter, Im not a fan of Cal look or GL really, I just like how some of these bugs look with rims that belong on jap imports :laugh: Like Oasis's bug looks nice, but I had someone do a couple photochops of a complete bug in my 2 tone colors and the jap import style rims just dont look right and my dad also told me the centerlines would look really stupid on a bug :laugh: at least he's honest, right?.I may just stay with my current wheels and just narrow the beam up front and put 1.25" wider fenders on rear to cover that 1inch of tire/rim sticking out or just go the 70's retro look and lower the car just enough to where the tires dont rub the fenders lip because I like the look of my wheels with the bug lowered, just wont be able to slam it.Anyone know how hard the baseball bat trick is, to flare the fenders if I was to stay with my curent wheels?:D

oasis

January 25th 2007, 10:35

There are a lot of Japanese cars and, therefore, a lot of Japanese rims. Plus, there is no shortage of aftermarket rims for Japanese cars. I would be a bit patient and look around thoroughly since this is a direction you like.

Another thing to consider is some bugs look good to you with Japanese rims but not with your color scheme. Maybe you shouldn't be locked in with your color scheme.

You are fortunate to have photoshop skills. Use them. And be creative.

The two biggest reasons for project abandonment is loss of funds and loss of time. The third biggest reason is a person compromising their way through the project and ending up with something that has nowhere to go without a lot of backtracking. Don't be a potential victim to Number Three.

Back when I had to consider my options with wheels, tires, suspension, brakes and fenders, I was told the baseball bat trick was fairly easy for someone with experience. Translation: Practice on some old fenders if you can, or have someone who has done it before do it for you.

Veedub

January 25th 2007, 11:55

Oasis, just curious but what do you mean by saying I shouldnt be to locked in on my color sceme?Just curious is all.What type of rims would you run on my bug if it was yours an with this 2 tone sceme?:D

oasis

January 25th 2007, 22:40

what do you mean by saying I shouldnt be to locked in on my color sceme?
I got the idea you saw rims from a Japanese car that you liked on a bug but those rims didn't look good on your bug after photo-amending. All I was suggesting (assuming I was right) is maybe you stick with the rims you like and go for a different color. Just something to consider.

Personal experience: I wanted a 1303 originally and had the color for ir already selected. When I bought my 1302 instead, I liked the color it had (not a traditional GL color either BTW even though it is monotone) and I didn't think my color selection would look as sharp on a 1302. So, I kept the original color.

I still may do a 1303 some day.

What type of rims would you run on my bug if it was yours an with this 2 tone sceme?
Hmmm, I will have to give it some thought.

Veedub

January 25th 2007, 23:49

Well, my paint is actually umm rustoleum so it will need to be painted in a year:laugh: so when I do that I thought bout going with the solid Harbor blue, and run a offset racing stripe, which was my plan originally.The 2 tone was my dads idea, I went with it because it was just spray cans and also I didn't want to hurt his feelings.
Anyway, I seen some wheels on cip1.com that looked pretty cool to me, but they woud look cool if my bug was solid light blue.I'll post the link for you oasis, you tell me what you think.http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C23%2DVW32ALU
My dad dont like them but I do :laugh: but the 2 tone will have to go.:D

Veedub

January 26th 2007, 00:48

some partial photochops
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8811/blue1lq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2554/bluebugcopyfr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

what you think?

fastdub

January 26th 2007, 09:11

basically at the mo i cant be bothered to pay to get everything painted properly so its gonna be satin black wings, bonnet, decklid and bumpers !

it'll do for now - and as its yellow it'll look like i've done it on purpose to look like one of rally special editions ;)
http://www.sebeetles.com/yellow_black_jump.jpg
http://www.sebeetles.com/yellow_b_rear.jpg

Veedub

January 26th 2007, 09:47

http://www.sebeetles.com/yellow_black_jump.jpg
http://www.sebeetles.com/yellow_b_rear.jpg

HAHA awesome! Air Bug :laugh: sweet. I used spray cans to paiunt my car, of course we treated the prep like it was being painted with normal paint, so I'd just need the outside painted on my car.The yellow and black looks cool, change the hood and decklid to carbon fiber :laugh:

fastdub

January 26th 2007, 12:03

HAHA awesome! Air Bug :laugh: sweet. I used spray cans to paiunt my car, of course we treated the prep like it was being painted with normal paint, so I'd just need the outside painted on my car.The yellow and black looks cool, change the hood and decklid to carbon fiber :laugh:

i never thought about that :D

i have got cf running boards;)

oasis

January 26th 2007, 15:20

some partial photochops [later]:

what you think?

I like the wheels okay ... much more than the Centerlines f'sure.

I never warmed up too much to that particular two-tone in any color combo because it looks too much like some taxi companies we have in the Baltimore-Washington area.

The two-tone of the GSR (Yellow and Black Racer) was going to be the color combo of the 1303 I never bought ... or, at least, haven't yet. I wasn't going to do yellow and black specifically but that was the intended theme.

I abandoned the thought of a GSR-like look when I got my 1302.

The carbon fiber idea was in my head, too, but I became more partial to kevlar-carbon. No one makes a front lid in kevlar-carbon at this time so re-re-thinking doing that for my 1302 is on hold.

Basically, any two-tone that can be prominently seen from a side view will detract the attention from those looking at your wheels. This may be why beyond the "function" aspect of German Look I like the "look" aspect of German Look as being more monotone.

I will add (since you asked) that I do like stripes occasionally and I have seen two-tones I liked besides the GSR. Separate colored fenders and separate colored doors/body panels are amongst those I do not care for, however.

Opinions vary.

Veedub

January 27th 2007, 10:20

I acttually like those rims in the photchop, it looks cool to me.Then when i have it repainted later on, (I'll paint it the way I originally wanted it, then I'll add a few things like the carbon fiber bumpers with the spoiler underneath, if he still makes it, then if they exist, carbon fiber trim to replace the trim on the sides.:D of course not with the 2 tone though :puke:

Veedub

January 29th 2007, 17:30

The more I stare at the 2 tone photochop, the more I like it, I dont exactly know why though :laugh: I was told my bug would be considered the " French Look" whats that? ACVW's seem to have to many "looks"

What way is the GSR painted?

oasis

January 30th 2007, 02:15

From an appearance standpoint, the German Look is monotone using modern paints. Quite often, they from high-end motorcars like Porsche. Blacks, deep blues, British racing greens and especially silvers fit the bill. It is not unusual to find a pearlized paint scheme. Bright yellows, oranges and greens have been known to make their way into the mix quite effectively.

(My car being stock yellow -- and one favoring the pastel side of things -- is atypical for the German Look. And since German Look is also about dechroming, my car is a slight departure there, too. I still consider it a German Looker because its heart is in that classification. Maybe Retro German Look or Pseudo German Look better suits my car but, then again, I'm just making those terms up.)

The key is the monochromatic paint scheme. The only exception is if the car has racing markings like the Käfer Cup race cars from where the look got its inspiration.

The French Look on the other hand places its visual emphasis on a fancy paint scheme. That means bright colors are more often selected as a base, and a wild pattern is attached to it. Many times, the wild pattern is asymmetrical -- at least it is from front to rear. The left and right sides of the car may be the same, however. Typically, the engine bay is all fancied out to match.

The French Look may be lowered with modern wheels but often the drivetrain is left stock. (I believe the drivetrain has to be left stock in France.)

Because the French Look is different than the German Look, many modern looks that embrace open road and track racing as its theme (i.e. handling as a central focal point), they often get lumped together as being a European Look which becomes a catch-all.

Yours is definitely not a French Look by tradition either.

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The GSR (Yellow and Black Racer in German) is a special edition Super Beetle that Volkswagen made available in Germany that parallels the Sports Bug special edition in the United States during the 1973 model year. Both cars are based in Saturn Yellow. (The Sports Bug was also available in fewer quantities in Marathon Blue Metallic.)

The GSR had a black lids, front and back, and blacked-out trim such as bumpers and headlight rims. Here is a picture from the special editions site:
http://www.sebeetles.com/yellow_black_jump.jpg

oasis

January 30th 2007, 15:47

I was looking through some ads and came across this. This is a typical French Looker:
http://www.teozracingcar.fr/ForSale/35/images/DSC06789_jpg.jpg

The graphics can get more exotic as well.

EvilAngel

January 30th 2007, 22:31

I know this is a bit off topic, but i'll ad some
From what ive read about the french look, it's all oasis said. They can modify the engine but they have to keem them bery mild, as french regulations don't allow important mods. Because of this, usually the engine is kept stock, and they focus more on the outside od the car

Veedub

January 30th 2007, 22:38

Well I think I may just wait and use my current wheels and see what happens when I lower it 3inches front and back with a 2" narrow up front since they stick out up front mostly.The rears are right even with the lip.Maybe I can run 135's up front or something with discs up front if they'll work with a rim with a 0 offset. I have seen some BTR's there not german look but there 15x7's and look something like my rims i have now, it was a thought but there 5x205 pattern, id just run addapters in rear.