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freshprince
November 18th 2007, 12:32
standard question I'm sure. Will these fit?

How hard are they to fit under the arches? And how low will I be able to go with them?

they are 205/50/ZR17 tyre sizes on atm??

all help gratefully received....

asap. :) cheers

also any pics of the same would be great :D

freshprince
November 18th 2007, 13:20
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270187625292&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching


those above are what i'm looking at :) :)

vujade
November 18th 2007, 13:29
fronts will fit fine. I would recommend either a narrowed beam or wider
arches in the front.

the rears may need spacers or 944 brakes to widen track to accommodate
the 8 1/2" wheel. Plus you may need a little bit of a wider arch in the rear.
not sure though :)

freshprince
November 18th 2007, 13:36
but there would be no problem in getting them under the arches with a bit of modification??

So... if I buy them, it's just a case of changing the bits around them to make them fit right>?

Scotts73SB
November 19th 2007, 00:32
55 mm offset is the magic number for the wheels (ie 17 X 7 55et) under stock fenders.
I needed a 23 mm spacer in the rear.
But then again mines a super..so mines wierd anyway.:eye:

freshprince
November 19th 2007, 08:24
so it is possible then?

ricola
November 19th 2007, 08:50
Depends on the width of the rears, fronts should be fine. I think the max you can squeeze under a pretty standard car are 8 1/2J at the back.
All this also is variable depending on what brakes you are running and how they are fitted (noticed you said you were changing them on your other thread).
Rich

freshprince
November 19th 2007, 09:03
:confused: I'm so confused by all this, I haven't thought about what brakes i'm going to run at the rear... If I go for wider rear wings will I be able to get them under that?

ricola
November 19th 2007, 11:15
Post the offsets and widths of the wheels and we can help, it should be stamped or cast into them (ET55 is offset of 55mm, 7J is 7" width) with this info we can progress. The problem at the back is that without any spacers on stock drums it hits the bump stops you can grind this down for some extra clearance but not the full amount. Early 944 brakes are a fairly easy/cheap swap and would space out the rear to the right amount while converting to the Porsche stud pattern...
Rich

freshprince
November 19th 2007, 12:46
Post the offsets and widths of the wheels and we can help, it should be stamped or cast into them (ET55 is offset of 55mm, 7J is 7" width) with this info we can progress. The problem at the back is that without any spacers on stock drums it hits the bump stops you can grind this down for some extra clearance but not the full amount. Early 944 brakes are a fairly easy/cheap swap and would space out the rear to the right amount while converting to the Porsche stud pattern...
Rich

The two front wheels are 7x17,

996.362.124.00
GK-AISi7Mg0.4wa
FR5750N
ET55

The two rear wheels are 9x17,

996.362.128.00
GK-AISi7Mg0.4wa
FR4400N
ET55

does that give you it?

I imagine that means fronts are 7" wide with a 55 offset
and the rears are 9" wide with 55 offset?

So I could uprgade to porsche trailing arms and brakes? at the rear to accomodate? Would I still need wide wings?

Cheers
FP

freshprince
November 19th 2007, 14:38
i'm told the steering stops need to be adjusted... all advices gratfeully received :)

ricola
November 20th 2007, 10:33
Would would need some small spacers up front and I'm not sure you will be able to fit the 9" rears under stock wings, if you do they'd be very tight!
You really need to decide on what brakes you want to use as that will give a baseline for what spacers/wider wings would be needed..

freshprince
November 20th 2007, 11:03
I imagine 944 brake setup on the rears....

I'm told that allows more room than the standard Drums?

Not too sure on the front though, what porsche brakes would be best? and would I be best off fitting porsche brakes or going for the re drilled beetle discs?

ricola
November 20th 2007, 13:01
Don't take this the wrong way, but use the search function, this sort of topic has been discussed numerous times in the past...
Rich

T151
December 13th 2007, 10:32
I have polished C4 alloys on mine,

7x17 ET55 on the front, 9x17 ET55 on the back...

But I'm running late ali 944 arms with 944 Turbo brakes, No spacers - flits nicely under a 60mm oversized rear wing...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g266/ter1303/Bug/DSC00510.jpg~original

Still a work in progres...
;)

Scotts73SB
December 13th 2007, 23:56
Wow that does fit nice!! Nice job!

T151
December 14th 2007, 06:29
think I lowered the back by a spline or so though...


:)

aartjan
December 14th 2007, 13:54
How hard are they to fit under the arches? And how low will I be able to go with them?

they are 205/50/ZR17 tyre sizes on atm??

all help gratefully received....

asap. :) cheers

also any pics of the same would be great :D
Stock fenders and 7" ET55 with 195/45/17 and 10mm spacers @ front and 8.5" ET50 with 215/45/17 and 20mm spacers @ rear do fit with stock brakes and IRS arms.

The front 10mm spacers are needed to get back (stock) positive scrub radius (without is neutral) and acceptable turncircle. The rear 20mm spacers are needed for clearance between tire and springplate.

You can use the Wheel Offset Calculator (http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp) to compare various situations. Very usefull!