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Wally January 23rd 2008 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Typ Vier (Post 61888)
PORSCHE says no, it is not possible nor allowed to machine them, once worn or damaged they need to be replaced no if or but.

If you use a diamond grinding tool similar to the flywheel grinding as mentioned earlier it may work but chances are that they will shatter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1500Bug (Post 61960)
I know quite a lot about the ceramic brakes, ...

The pictures shown of those discs. They are shot. UNusable and NOT machineable.

Ian

Well, people have told me before some things could not be done (using 964 cylinders on a type 4 for instance), but I am a stubborn sob....

Today I wanted to show you it IS possible to machine them and I HAVE done it! :D

http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/63336.jpg

http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/63974.jpg

They look fiber-ish, but are very smooth, I assure you ;) Its just difficult to capture with a flash light.

Still not proof they will work on the car, but one thing at the time :rolleyes:

Walter

Sandeep January 23rd 2008 14:15

Good for you Wally !

Strong will and determination do go along way (911 shrouds don't cool ;) )

Let us know how those brakes work out so we can envy you even more.

Good job.

Sandeep

volkdent January 23rd 2008 15:19

Nice job, the fact is anything is possible if you really want to do it!

Jason

flat January 23rd 2008 22:07

Good job Wally. I like and support your against-the-grain thinking! Keep it up!

Chris Percival January 24th 2008 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally (Post 63726)
but I am a stubborn sod....

I man after my own heart..

Typ Vier February 21st 2008 17:00

2 Attachment(s)
There you go, you've done it. High speed grinding, washing the particles off with lots of water. So you think they are safe to use???::eek:
Do what you want, but don't be a danger to other road users. Note the attached PORSCHE technical data referring to brake wear limit.

yetibone February 21st 2008 20:32

Wally, you're an inspiration to me. I love it when people do things that others call impossible.:D

Keep the innovations coming!

Wally March 1st 2008 12:21

Today I test fitted the disks and calipers on the existing M030 spindles. The 350mm disks still fitted easily in the 18" rims :)

http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/65127.jpg

http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/65128.jpg

Sandeep March 1st 2008 14:59

Badass for sure ! :haveadrin

Sandeep

vwdevotee March 1st 2008 21:34

It looks incredible.

http://www.caymanclub.net/gallery/fi...6/9/5/PCCB.jpg

It looks like the surface is different from factory. Did you grind off a surface coat? How wil that effect your brake life/performance?

Like I said though, it looks incredible.

Wally March 2nd 2008 11:58

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Originally Posted by vwdevotee (Post 64446)
It looks like the surface is different from factory. Did you grind off a surface coat?

As I understood from the company that only does ceramic machining, there is/was no surface coating. The surface is super smooth again, but like I mentioned before, it just is diffcult to capture by (flash)photogragh ;)

There really is only one way to find out if it works :rolleyes:

vwdevotee March 2nd 2008 12:19

I just meant that the grains now look a lot larger than the factory surface. Good luck with your tests, just make sure your seatbelt is tight, and your insurance is paid up (God forbid anything should happen).

krukab March 12th 2008 06:45

I think the first place where Wally is going to test them, is on the track :D

vwdevotee March 12th 2008 10:59

From what I've read, that would be a bad plan. The factory doesn't recommend these for track because the thermal conductivity is really low compared with iron, and the heat destroys them REALLY fast. Apparently most people bought these and are not saddled with 10 000 USD repair bills after a few track sessions. Is that perhaps where Wally got his?

Wally March 12th 2008 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwdevotee (Post 64658)
From what I've read, that would be a bad plan. The factory doesn't recommend these for track because the thermal conductivity is really low compared with iron, and the heat destroys them REALLY fast. Apparently most people bought these and are not saddled with 10 000 USD repair bills after a few track sessions. Is that perhaps where Wally got his?

Yes, you are totally right: they suck, don't brake well, are unsafe on the road and especially on the track and in general just a very bad idea.
This is all before I even tried it.
Whatever...


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