no prob, i'll have to get a camera from work so it won't be till mon or tues. basically it looks like the early alu. arm with a late turbo hub. i'll measure the caliper bolt spacing and see if there's a difference in the 2 sets of arms also

Maybe someone switched rear hubs to get more track for their car. :confused:

I got the complete rear suspension from a '86 NA and I measures the track from the spring plate and it was the later style as well as it uses the longer half shafts. I wonder if they went to the wider setup mid 86?

Thought you might like this pic.
On the right is a standard 1303 seni-trailing arm, in the centre is a steel 944 arm (which I think is identical bar the wheel hub assembly), while on the left is an ally 944 arm.
I was going to use the ally job on my '03 until I saw the extra width it'll add to the rear wheels!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...3.jpg~original
Another point to note is that the bolt pattern for the ally arm will not fit the 1303 spring plate, where the steel will.

Hope this helps. :)

I like the wide arms
 

I need the wide trailing arms for my bug. The wheels i've got are 993s the fronts are 7x16 with 55mm offset and 150mm backspacing, while the rears are 9x16 with 70mm offset with 190mm(wow!). I have 2 inch wider fenders front and rear, so i need to push the wheels out to the fender lips. Will the front hubs from'92-'95 968 add more track like the rear arms will?

a question about spring plates. Are there simple solutions stateside for this? I have spent 3 months looking for a set of spring plates, and it seems each Porsche dealer I speak to has a different Idea of what I am talking about?! So what I am trying to understand is, what spring plates do I need to get in order to continue the install? In a photo above there is a bright silver spring plate cover... what is this from? also is there a way to ditch my rear torsion bars, as I would like to use coil-overs but still require a springplate / uniball something or other... Anyone have insights for this?

Thank you.
(86 alloy arms on 69 IRS pan -body clearance a non-issue, just want the arms to function as installed.)

Hi

This is an 944 adjusting tool a friend quickly made up on his lathe from some hex brass.

Steve

With the Early (top) will widen track by 43mm is it possible to use alloy wheels and stock rear fenders?

I'm not 100% on this, but doubt it. If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't the 43mm push the wheel mounting surface out past the fender lip on its own? No wheel offset is going to make up for that. If you went to 1-1/4" wider fenders, then yes, with the right offset you are fine.

That was my thought as well. I will keep looking for a steel right rear control arm.

is this 43mm or 74mm per side or for both sides?

Hi

I measured my 1303 bug which had Type 3 rear drums fitted, then with early alloy arms. I've been told that Type 3 rears give a very small track increase.

Rear track wheel bolt face to wheel bolt face
1303 with Type 3 drums 1405 mm
1303 with early 944 alloy arms 1490 mm

Steve

Our 1303 has 924S alloy arms with 7" teledials on the rear and with a 31mm spacer the wheel sits perfect with +4" wings (fenders)

Clive

Per side. I have late arms with 951 brakes/rotors, 8.5"ET48 wheels and 3" fenders and the wheels nicely meet the fender lip.

I just got the late trailing arms without the bump stops, but when I compared the early and late, it looks about the same! Could it be the rotors that widen the track? Or the early alu arms came with bumpstops and without.:confused:

Without bump stops L side: 951 331 513. 8R
R side: 951 331 514. 8R

With bump stop R side: 951 331 514.1R , 951 331 514.0R
L side 951 331 513 1R

I have 1 extra right side with bump stop.
Could it be the hubs, rotors that increase each side by 31mm?

just for some info,
86 and back 944/951 with non ABS used ET23 wheels, 87 and up ABS cars, the hubs changed to a wider track, and the cars went to et53 wheels, so yes the hubs are wider on the later cars.

John

Thanks John for the info, will set it up soon and will post the difference.
Cheers.
Ric

I have late alu arms (no bump stops) with early 951 hubs and 7" cookie cutter (ET 23). The wheels just fit nicely in the fenders with 2.5" universal flares.

TIm,

Which fender flares are those.. are they generic, or miata?

Let me know, I have been wanting to do the same, as a way to get around not buying flared fenders.. I thought no one had gone down that road yet..

Any info appreciated
Alex

Hi Alex, they are universal fender flares I bought on Ebay. I think the set I got was made for Datsun 240Z and it was shipped from Thailand. I think there are many vendors selling the same or similar things in the US too. Just search on Ebay "universal fender flares Datsun" or "240Z".

Hi Alex, they are universal fender flares I bought on Ebay. I think the set I got was made for Datsun 240Z and it was shipped from Thailand. I think there are many vendors selling the same or similar things in the US too. Just search on Ebay "universal fender flares Datsun" or "240Z".

Tim,

Thanks, they look like they fit quite well the arches of the beetle.. are they fiberglass or plastic?

Thanks for the info..
Alex

Hey,
Did anyone have trouble with the spring plates not sitting on the droop stop?

did you give the chassis a clearance grind for the head of the adjusting bolt?

Hey Steve,

I didn't.

Just that hole is enough to clearance the area?
Will I still be able to use the adjusters for alignment purposes?
Does this require a specific spring plate cover? I've got a 1970 with dual blades on the spring plate, and another person said I need to use the later versions without the spacers on the back so it will suck the Porsche springplate in tighter.

The big nut will drag on the chassis if you dont grind some metal away

You can still get to the toe and camber adjusters, the big nut is hard to turn because the chassis blocks it, I found a thin (36mm I think) spanner on eBay for a clutch fan I think

I used cut down 944 alloy ones on my car with Beetle inner rubbers and 944 urethane outers

you see my 944 outer cover in this photo

I take it that everything lines up properly and all works fine like that eh?

Would running non Porsche covers work?