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TSAF November 30th 2010 09:26

Wally have you heard anything about JP regarding type iv components?

Wally November 30th 2010 10:19

No, not really, just that he could make a raptor cam if you provide him with a blank, but that was to be expected.

What could he make that isn't already available you think?

TSAF November 30th 2010 10:27

Have you seen his heads for type i applications. The guy is a legend up there.

http://www.jpmotorsport.se/

Check him out and let me know what you think.

don m November 30th 2010 10:51

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Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 78565)
@Don m: Don Pauterīs 3 liter motor is impressive and I know itīs been in his Ghia since 2005 as a daily driver.The question is,however,how would it hold up on the european autobahns where the average speed is much higher than in the states? Here we have an overall average of about 130Km/h (80mph) ,sometimes full throttle of 130+mph for for 5 or 10 minutes regularly.Iīm not doubting Don Pauters ability or his quality,but that engine is made for a differe3nt market, like the typical daily driver and weekend 1/4 mile racer.

according to him with current gearing the car runs 70-80mph @ 2400-2800 rpm, right in the cars' sweet spot and will run there all day, up hill, down hill doesn't matter. 3000 nets 85mph and still no problems if the CHP isn't watching, 4000= 115mph if you're brave enough, he says beyond that he doesn't want to play anymore, you win.

Wally November 30th 2010 11:08

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Originally Posted by TSAF (Post 78574)
Have you seen his heads for type i applications. The guy is a legend up there.

http://www.jpmotorsport.se/

Check him out and let me know what you think.

I already know of him for some time of course, but his head is not that much different then a Remmele or Engine Plus type 1-style head if it would be made for type4, hence my wonder what he could make for type 4 that isn't already there? We already have at least 4 or 5 (6 if I count them all) type 1 style heads that (also) fit type 4.
Or it would be for a better price? Don't think that will be the case with the small T4 market...
A better cast/machined type 4 head with downward exiting exhaust ports like the original T4, now THAT would be a new thing I could spring for!

karmann79 November 30th 2010 17:35

hi
TSAF as i know we have a gay here in Greece that is his dealer
as i know he is now up there in Sweden at a dyno day or something.
so you can give him a call and learn more details
check his site http://spracing.gr/

TSAF December 1st 2010 04:10

I prefer to deal directly with the source.

70Turbobug December 1st 2010 05:26

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I am of the impression that the Remmele T1-T4 heads actually run hotter then stock heads as a friend of mine has one of his Remmele 2,8ltr engines with those heads and I saw CHT running onwards to nearly 600F (under the spark plug) when he stepped on it on the street for a relatively short moment.
My assumption (but you knwowhat they say about ASSumptions ) is that those heads also CAN run hotter without much problems because they are so strong/stiff. Its just not that good for tuning imo. Alu cylinders would be able to take some heat away from the heads, especially those solid cast heads would benefit imo.
So the cylinders are indeed not a heat problem in itself, but can help solve the heat problem of the heads...

Also nikasil coating would minimize the friction heat and losses. Its always better solution therefore imho to run alu-nikasil on such an engine and usually worth the cost when you compare total cost of a Remmele engine.
BTW: Alusil is NOT the same as alu with a nikasil coating!! Alusil is what the old 944/928 engines used as block and liner material. MB used it too. Nikasil is better, but a tiny bit more expensive than alusil. Well worth the extra effort imo and so did porsche.
I remember you telling about your friends car witrh the Remmele heads.I donīt know why his motor runs that hot to be honest.Youīre probably right also about Remmeleīs heads beeing able to withstand more heat.But again,i canīt confirm that.I can only confirm what I have seen;)
Yes, the Alusil cylinders are different from the Nickies.However,the Remmele cylinders are also aluminum with nakasilcoating that were cast in a steel mold (Stahlkokille).You can nickasil coat any cylinder.Most aircraft cylinders are nickasil coated,the ones that arenīt are chrome coated (which is not better).The saturation and time if nickasil determines how far into the material it penetrates and therefore it longevity and wear properties.

Johannes Person makes some fantastic stuff,no doubt.But I agree with Wally,what can he make that hasnīt been done before and would it be somewhat affordable? His type 1 stuff is top notch and so is the price. Also,the quality parts that are out there are becoming increasingly expensive.Meanwhile Jake Rabyīs engines cost just as much as Remmeleīs engines do,because the costs to build them has risen aswell.Soon Remmele will have his own cranks,rods and pistons made in Germany in his programm,so he will no longer be dependant on overseas companies and their occasional quality issues.But since Remmele introduced his 3 liter,the price hasnīt gone up even with the improvements he has made.
There are a lot of good engines and engine builders in this industry,just depends on what you want.

TSAF December 1st 2010 05:42

True!!!!!

Jim December 1st 2010 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by karmann79 (Post 78580)
hi
TSAF as i know we have a gay here in Greece that is his dealer
as i know he is now up there in Sweden at a dyno day or something.
so you can give him a call and learn more details
check his site http://spracing.gr/

You mean guy and not GAY!!!!!!:D:D:D

70Turbobug December 1st 2010 06:02

LOL....dangerous spelling there :D

TSAF December 1st 2010 06:14

True again!!!

evilC December 1st 2010 09:08

gay Lighthearted, sportive mirthful, showy, brilliant, (slang) homosexual. OED.

karmann79 December 1st 2010 09:38

sorry:o:o
not gay...guy:D:D:D

petevw December 2nd 2010 01:19

There are quite a few guys out in California that are now working on making turnkey 3L type1's for a decent price. Hopefully we will see them soon.

Visited Eddie back in '06. He took me for a ride, and it didn't feel like an 11sec car. It did pull hard and steady through all 5 gears.

His next "upgrade" was to install carbon fiber doors on it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/...6.jpg~original

Big wheels that were mentioned:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/...9.jpg~original

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/...3.jpg~original

Video: had to sit on the passenger floor and hold on to the roll cage, as there was no seat installed on that side:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/...3.jpg~original

Pete


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