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Dasdubber July 4th 2005 08:51

Finally a little more progress was made (have been too busy renovating the house again)....

1/0 stinger hpm gauge cable was connected to the +ve terminal and inline fuse holder.
http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...Jul4.sized.jpg

Negative and ground is all ready to go.
http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...Jul4.sized.jpg

Dasdubber July 4th 2005 08:52

Sub enclosure is finally bolted into position and sub connected.
http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...Jul4.sized.jpg

The vinyl/paint combo turned out pretty nicely (in my opinion)
http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...Jul4.sized.jpg

Hopefully some more progress soon...
http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...Jul4.sized.jpg

Troy_Audio July 4th 2005 18:58

eh..just what I expected..
a FINE *** JOB!..
Peace Looks great
Troy
(Thanks For The Carb Info)

alt+f4 July 10th 2005 01:07

WOW!!! uh....WOW!!! You are Awsome man!! Ive never seen somebody take so much care when laying things out. Your Craftsmanship is Top notch!!



This car is going to be driven regularly? yes?

Dasdubber July 10th 2005 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by alt+f4
WOW!!! uh....WOW!!! You are Awsome man!! Ive never seen somebody take so much care when laying things out. Your Craftsmanship is Top notch!!



This car is going to be driven regularly? yes?

Indeed it will be - not a daily driver but it will get a good flogging every weekend!

alt+f4 July 12th 2005 00:31

Great to hear man!!! Cars are made to be Driven!!

Too Beautifull of a car to just let sit on a trailer all its life anyways!

Dasdubber July 20th 2005 08:44

I have finally finished the fuse panel wiring along with the battery - the last two wires (one to oil pressure sender and other to alternator) were also ran. Just a few to tidy up under the bonnet before the amps go in and wiring starts for them.

http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...ul20.sized.jpg

Also the 8.5mm silicon spark leads were connected (getting the lead from coil to firewall shortened currently). Now the carbs can go back on.

http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...ul20.sized.jpg

volkdent July 20th 2005 15:30

Not that you don't already have your hands full, but have you considered the serpentine belt system for the alternator? I'm just not a fan (no pun) of the stock pulley system as you can get a lot of odd vibation from the belt and with a big fan they can slip.

Jason

alt+f4 July 20th 2005 16:31

The Serp system would also look really nice with how fit, trim, and clean everything else is!

Dasdubber July 20th 2005 18:12

I did think about it but I wasn't aware there was a type IV crank pulley available in the serpentine system. Also the upright conversion I bought already came with this crank pulley, and with funds drying up fast I couldn't justify changing yet another change (have had too many changes already!!). :bawling:

Troy_Audio July 22nd 2005 22:30

Yeah man
on Shoptalk forums BMD has a sale post.. save some cash maybe you can get a 1off pully too to make your motor just a lil difrent like to whole car is..lol

I like mine.. lost 1 belt turns out It was not alined right but its all fine now..
Looks sick as hell man
Peace Troy

Dasdubber July 24th 2005 09:00

I think I'll leave it for now (cash is required elsewhere!)...brakes are now hooked up and bled, doors readjusted and a few more wiring bits tidied up.

http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...ul24.sized.jpg

barls July 24th 2005 17:54

hey das have you had the stereo running yet

Dasdubber July 24th 2005 18:16

No haven't had the stereo running just yet (Can't wait to do so soon though!). I have to figure out how I am going to mount the distribution block and crossovers before I start cutting the wires (don't want to do a temporary install then have to rewire everything because I've changed location of the bits). I will hopefully get started on this side of things shortly.

Troy_Audio July 24th 2005 21:39

Hey Alan,
Where you thinkin of mounting the Xover's & Distro block?
I was lookin at the pix seen you used the 10awg to the starter..
If you get any dimming in the lights you may try running 4awg to the Alt,Starter..
Just a thought
Looks great hope to see a pik of some rosted rear tires soon..

Dasdubber July 24th 2005 23:19

Yeah I may very well upgrade the power to starter soon - just want to get it running first then sort out a few of the 'new car blues' as I go.

I am planning to install the distro block and crossovers on the left side of the amps. I haven't decided yet whether I will make them a feature in the fibreglass amp surround piece, or hide them under the surround. Becaue on the right side of the amps I want to have room for a fan (for screen demister) and/or tool box as I will undoubtably need it at some stage.

I may start working on that later this week or maybe next week.

Dasdubber July 25th 2005 07:19

Time to start thinking of the amp surround - just brainstorming at the moment.

Tank went back in along with -4 breather line from filler neck. Wiring will be tidied up before being hidden behind amp surround (fibreglass).

http://www.netspot4u.com/~manxclub/a...ul25.sized.jpg

Dasdubber August 24th 2005 08:03

The underbonnet area will be redesigned shortly as I have obtained a new amp - an Audio Service F4-600:

http://service.winnet.it/Gttrading4/...ter_F4_600.jpg
http://service.winnet.it/Gttrading4/easysite/scheda3.asp?livello=3&Marchio=Audiosystem&Gamma=Tw ister&Modello=F4>600&pg=1


The two kenwood amps have been sold and rack will be reconfigured to house the distro block and crossovers. Work has been slow lately as we've moved house (to a different city)...so hopefully in a couple weeks work will resume and the f/g cover for the amp etc will be started.

Kafer_Mike August 24th 2005 14:07

Dasdub, how difficult was it to remote mount the WSW fuse box under the rear seat? Did you have enough wire in the WSW kit or did you have to purchase extra? I was planning to do something similar with my car and would appreciate any tips you can provide.

Dasdubber August 24th 2005 17:54

Very easy to mount it under the seat - I just made a MDF support box that was sikaflexed to the floor to mount it on. I only had to extend a couple of wires which wasn't hard. They give heaps of wire to allow for either an under bonnet or under seat mounting position. Makes it all pretty clean in my opinion.

Dasdubber September 18th 2005 05:39

Anyway, now a few of the shows are over for a little while (picked up a number of awards which was great), got to get back to installing the Audio System F4-500 amp. The amp rack had to be redesigned for the new amp - mdf platforms will be used as a base for cover pieces to hide wiring etc.

Steel frame will be used to mount mdf skeleton over which fibreglass will be laid for some nice curves. Power distribution block and crossovers will also be integrated (still to finalise that part of the design!).

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rack1Sep18.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rack2Sep18.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rack3Sep18.jpg

More pics to come once I get a bit more done!

volkdent September 18th 2005 13:00

Looking good! I was wondering when you were going to get back on your system?!

Jason

Dasdubber September 22nd 2005 08:32

A little more progress on the amp rack - steel frame is tacked together (welds will be finished later) which will provide the base for mdf skeleton (over which f/g will be laid).

The piano hinge will allow access to amp controls and wiring (additional mdf will be used along with more f/g to tidy up the hinged cover piece).

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...2.jpg~original

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...2.jpg~original

lazylongboarder September 23rd 2005 23:17

What kind of sound are you looking for with this install?

I worked in car installation for a while at ultimate electronics.

I have a single Pioneer SPL2000 12'' competition sub that I had in my bug at the time hooked up to a BD1000 running it at 1 ohm gave it close to 1400 watts RMS and we hit 151.8 db's with the single sub in a slot ported box.

The only single sub that I know of that'll play that loud. It made me cry with feeling no emotion...only pain.

If anyone has heard 115 db's of bass, its too much.

When we played it in the install bay, it would shake my coffee mug in the office 300 feet away.

We also had an infinity Kappa perfect 12.1 in my bug with Infinity's 600 watt mono sub amp, Plenty of power with a nice clean hit.

The Pioneer sub was pretty much only when you want to listen to loud noises, not music aka little jon.

Everything looks great so far. Keep up the good lookin' work. Keep us posted.

Dasdubber September 24th 2005 06:53

WOW - 151dB - that is f'ken huge!! I am more interested in SQ rather than pure SPL. This is my first real audio system so I have tried to keep it fairly simple whilst using as good quality components as possible (Within budget).

As is usually the case, plans have changed as I have progressed with the construction. Originally the little rounded skeleton pieces were going to be used as the frame over which fibreglass would be laid - however as I trial fitted them up I kinda liked the exposed look.

So I decided to use them as a highlight and add thin mdf to the inside to cover the amp controls and power/ground wires etc. The piano hinge allows easy access to the controls/fuses. The MDF will be painted in body colour with some carpet underneath.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...4.jpg~original

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...4.jpg~original

volkdent September 25th 2005 14:21

That's going to look VERY nice. I'm really impressed with how artistic you've been with the whole thing, I tend to thing the same way. It will be a work of art when it's done, and I'm sure it will sound as good as it looks!

Jason

Dasdubber September 27th 2005 07:42

Cheers Jason

Nothing too exciting today (I know you'll probably be getting sick of reading about this resto) :P

Started sorting out the carpet surrounding the amp rack etc - photo is pretty blurry but you get the idea. It will be all tidied up once the rack goes back in place (which will cover the dynaudio crossovers as well).


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...7.jpg~original

Dasdubber September 28th 2005 07:44

Managed to finish up the carpet around the amp rack - not perfect but tidies it up quite nicely. Windscreen washer is finally hooked up and working.

Wiring from crossovers to splits is done (just have to wire amp to crossovers) - 1/0 gauge power cable will be routed to stinger distro block (to be mounted at top tier of rack in centre). 4 gauge will be routed to amp, and second run to small unfused distro block to provide power for the HU, and neon/s.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ack10Sep28.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...8.jpg~original

Troy_Audio October 1st 2005 12:54

Sup Dub
long time no post from me..
Your Bug is lookin as sick as ever..
You know the SPL cap for an SQ system is 135dB I think you can hit that no prob.. and with the Dyns in front you'll have no truble hearing anything..

Say what amp is that you had a Kenwood before..
& your router work ( or jig) is great..
hope your enjoying your New car..
Peace Troy

Dasdubber October 3rd 2005 06:30

Hey Troy - cheers mate. The amp is an Audio System F4-600 Twister series. It can supply 2 x 460W RMS @ 4ohm - here is a link to some details:
http://service.winnet.it/Gttrading4/easysite/scheda3.asp?livello=3&Marchio=Audiosystem&Gamma=Tw ister&Modello=F4>600&pg=1


Well, as if you hadn't figured already, this sort of thing takes a lot of time!

First the base for the top tier was cut from mdf and edges routed. The hole up the top is just to provide some back lit illumination through the plastic Stinger distribution block (from underneath the base).

Second pic shows the amp and its ridged cover plate (hinged for access to amp controls), along with distro block in place.

Last pic shows the 'bones' which will form the shape of the upper tier - these will be secured in place via hot glue then fabric stretched over them to which the fibreglass can be applied. Hopefully more to come soon.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...3.jpg~original

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...3.jpg~original

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...3.jpg~original

Troy_Audio October 3rd 2005 13:42

Madness..
Should look Way Killer when your finished..
I like the Idea of lighting the distro block.. that should look sick..
Take'n your time is what gets you a car like yours..
Very nice man
cant wait to see it on the cover of
Volksworld,Hot VW,ext ext...
Peace Troy

Dasdubber October 9th 2005 05:30

today the f/g work started finally on the upper tier. The skeleton pieces were hot glued in place and then fabric stretched over...couple coats of resin were applied to stiffed it all up to get ready for the f/g matt (this week some time).


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...9.jpg~original

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...9.jpg~original

Dasdubber October 12th 2005 06:24

All the images I had attached were down for quite some time, but finally the gallery is back up and running again (although because the links have changed the images still won't be visible in this thread) - but here is the new link to see all the pics from start to finish (well almost finished):

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/album95?page=1

Dasdubber October 15th 2005 23:08

Slowly but surely the amp rack progress continues. When painting fibreglass (rather than carpeting or vinyling it), a lot more time has to be spent to get it spot on.

There have been about 8 layers (most of which gets sanded off) of filler applied to get the desired shape. Lots of sanding thats for sure! Hopefully will have it high build primer then colour soon.

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck17_Oct16.jpg

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck18_Oct16.jpg

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck19_Oct16.jpg

Dasdubber October 16th 2005 04:42

Well I pulled my finger out and shot a couple coats of high build primer this arvo. Overall pretty happy with the prep - only a couple of areas that will need a bit of glaze putty. Took ages to sand between the ribs on the hinged cover piece - pain in the ar$e but should be worth it once it is finally finished!

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck20_Oct16.jpg

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck21_Oct16.jpg

Dasdubber October 25th 2005 07:21

Well, finally got a few more coats of high build primer with lots of sanding and more glaze filler (to fill sanding scratches) in between. Then came the base coat (three coats - first light, second medium and final dust coat to lay the metallic down evenly):

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck22_Oct25.jpg

Then two coats of clear (both medium - wet on wet) - wanted to try and obtain some decent flow to avoid having to colour sand it all. Turned out pretty well although pics don't do it real justice.

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck23_Oct25.jpg

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ck24_Oct25.jpg

samcat October 25th 2005 08:18

Shaking my head in disbelief!

As always, SUPERB craftsmanship!


Keep up the good work.

Sam C

Dasdubber November 1st 2005 08:50

Cheers Sam - I'm lovin the progress on your car too!

Well finally the painted amp rack/cover tier is bolted in place - four M8 S/S button head bolts holds the upper tier frame in place....and the lower rack is screwed onto the MDF support blocks. The rack was designed so that I could access the fuses easily and amp controls...also with four screws the lower amp rack comes out easily to access wiring underneath.

I would have liked to incorporate some vinyl into the upper tier but didn't have any to match the interior, nor the time to modify it further. Ran out of time tonight to get the system running (just have to crimp the last 4 gauge power/ground connections....then hopefully it will fire to life to blow off the cobwebs!

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ack25_Nov1.jpg

Depending on the light/flash, the colour takes quite a different appearance.
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ack26_Nov1.jpg

Dasdubber November 1st 2005 08:50

Like any install there are some things I would have done differently, but hey, thats learning....hindsight is a wonderful thing....still turned out pretty well (in my opinion)
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ack27_Nov1.jpg

The neons backlight the upper tier (all are fused of course and switched).
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ack29_Nov1.jpg

The cutout in the upper tier allows backlighting of the distro block as well - and just in case anyone asks, the middle fuse is just there because it looked funny with just two...also its there handy in case either of the other two blow.
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/a...ack30_Nov1.jpg

volkdent November 8th 2005 01:33

Have you heard it yet? Does the interior need some sound deadening?
Absolutely awesome mate!

Jason


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