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Wally December 30th 2011 05:10

Just pulled the engine out for replacement with the 1200 Challenge motor.
This is what the pressure plate looks like that came of the 2,2 T4T:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...0.jpg~original

:(

Now what?

TSAF December 30th 2011 05:19

Wally seriously only 1200cc type I turbo? W H Y????

Wally December 30th 2011 06:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAF (Post 82742)
Wally seriously only 1200cc type I turbo? W H Y????

Its sort of a build-off for a dyno challenge at the 1. Mai Hannover Käfertreffen in Germany ;) Actually the dyno-day for that is already at april 29 2012.
After that the type 4 comes back in. I just don't have two beetles fully outfitted with EFI ancillaries, so I have to swap engines for this.

So dont worry :cool:

paul_f January 3rd 2012 18:54

Is it a Kennedy clutch Wally? I have read quite a few complaints that the modern Kennedys do this, but then if you have the surface ground flat again they stay straight. I am pretty sure a guy called Fastorq on VZi posted that he had made the tooling so he could offer this service

Wally January 3rd 2012 19:01

Yeah its a Kennedy clutch.
No worries, we can ground pressure plates here as well ;-)
However, I am considering not using this set-up anymore and go a different direction with the clutch. Not sure yet if that idea is possible though with my current tranny set-up.
If it can be made to fit, I'll post it.

wrenchnride247 January 3rd 2012 22:38

After everything you did to get the G50 stuffed in there... a clutch should be no problem :)

Steve Arndt January 11th 2012 14:03

What is the clutch plan for a T1->G50 mate up?

Steve

Wally January 11th 2012 14:31

Yeah, thats probably a first: a VW 1200cc type 1 engine mated to a 1988 Carrera 5-speed gearbox :lmao:

Its already hanging:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...0.jpg~original

I used a Vanagon 1600 flywheel. These are 215mm stock. We then machined it a little larger still to 228mm, so I could use the Kennedy 228mm plates from formerly failed type4 attempts (which have a G50 spline). I have just an old used and abused organic one in now. The widening/machining leaves a little valley in the flywheel surface of just a few mm on the outside, but with an old burnt Sachs 'race engineering' pressure plate machined down so it could be used again, the whole thing fitted like it did with the type 4 and will probably have more then enough clamping for the 1200T. The spline-length of the G50 was just a little too long still, so I had to use the air dremel to free up the Berg flywheel bolt, but as above, it fits and clutch pedal is light again despite the stage 2-ish pp :D
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...4.jpg~original

In the meantime, I am making the turbo header:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...6.jpg~original

Supa Ninja January 11th 2012 23:18

I can't wait to see what numbers this think makes ;)

Everything looks good on this lil monster.

70Turbobug January 12th 2012 06:34

Quote:

Yeah, thats probably a first: a VW 1200cc type 1 engine mated to a 1988 Carrera 5-speed gearbox
I don´t think the G50 will hold up :lmao: 100hp/ccm right?:D

Looking good Wally! I´m really looking forward to seeing you in May in Tornesch!

Wally January 20th 2012 14:01

In the meantime...bought a used Tilton 3-plate set-up on ebay from a Nascar racer (with the wrong splines of course), just to see what the dimensions were and how much the parts weighed:

Kennedy 9" (228mm) dual plate:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...nclutch002.jpg

Tilton 7,25" (184mm) triple plate:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...nclutch004.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...nclutch005.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...nclutch007.jpg

:shock:
F*ck Kennedy, the Tilton set-up will be made to fit one way or the other! :twisted:
It will take time and probably too much money, but this seems really worth it imo.

chug_A_bug January 20th 2012 14:42

WOW! that's CRAZY....

Chris.

Wally January 23rd 2012 18:04

Now all fuel lines were open, I bled the tank and could finally put the catchtank back again as now I've routed the fuel return to catch tank directly, like its supposed to be.. Also increased fuel piping on catchtank for intake from the Carter priming pump.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...stalled001.jpg

and the dry-sump tank has been installed on top of it all again:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...stalled004.jpg

Steve C January 24th 2012 06:52

Hi Wally

Ive tried to find out what size your clutch master cylinder is by searching though your post, I couldn't find the answer. Can you tell me?

That clutch looks like a good upgrade for when the big block goes back in, at least it doesn't waste the engine removal time you spent.

Steve

Wally January 24th 2012 07:21

Steve,
The master cylinder is still the old one from the Saco set I installed when the 915 went in.
I really don't know 4sure what size they used, maybe you can check vendors of Saco conversion set-ups?
It seems to work fine with either the slave saco provided back then ('CNC' brand?) and the annular Luk/VW TOB I use now with the G50.


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