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Nice work, rust cleanup is never fun but you're off to a great start!
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Thx! ;)
That work was finished 2 summers ago.. The first idea was to drive with my 1600cc.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...9.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...8.jpg~original Not IRS chassis.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...7.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...6.jpg~original Next stop the paintshop.. :) Sanding for 2 à 3 months.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Prime coat.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original |
The inside was painted black and than i put the car together at my place..
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Back to the paintshop for sanding.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original And this was the result after total 4 months work.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original Then back home somewhere arround new year 2008... http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original The start up of the engine failed.. Arround juli past year i sold the 1600 and i bought a 2.0 type 4 engine. But the engine wasn't in a very good chape.. (it wasn't also expensive) Then i was thinking, i make my dream come true! Lets make it a 2.4 type 4... (it toke a while.. almost 1 year) :angry: In mean while i rebuild my chassis to IRS En porsche 944 suspension and brakes.. A tranny of the later model with stronger differentiel.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Then i had a big problem.. :shocked: The rims i WANTED... were at the back to wide.. :( http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original |
These are my front brakes, disc from kerscher en calliper from porsche boxster
Sway bar from eibach and lowered spindels http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original The fit the rear rims i had to change the wider porsche 944 changed with the originele and changed the brakes with a set of kerscher.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original So this was the view of the last few months.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Also front koni shocks.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original And then offcourse the engine pictures.. Drilled at 104.. that's good for 2411cc http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...3.jpg~original 316° http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...4.jpg~original 914 cilinder heads.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original With valves 48 and 40mm http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original Lightered en polised http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original BAS exhaust http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original 44 webers with K&N airtake http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original |
Than the build of the engine..
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original 123 ignition.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...2.jpg~original Ready to go to the dyno.. That's were the engine still is, it's over there for a month.. He starts on my engine 21 juli.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original This is the look with the rims under my bug (on bricks) http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...3.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...3.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Also put more gages from autometer.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original That's my project! I hope to drive in 4 weeks? :rolleyes: I'll let you know.. Grtz Roel |
Looks good so far! That's a ton of work and it looks like you're very close, keep us updated! :D
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Nice looking project. Lots of nice bits. Keep us updated.
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Looking great so far! :)
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Great build!! Its a shame those connecting rods are hidden in the motor!
Thanks for all the pics! Cant wait to see it done. |
Great build; it should be a good autobahnstormer!
(can I ask why you have a MPH speedo in a Belgian car? Also, what have you done about the emergency/parking brake?) Clive |
Very good work!!! Keep us update...
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And my friends have american cars cars with mph tacho's.. I think it's cool.. About the handbrake, it's hydrolique (on oil) It's easy to connect ( i did it because it was easyer to connect with the porsche brakes.. Now with the kerscher rear brake kit, i could use the normaal emergency brake, but i already had the hydrolique handbrake.. Today is the front end ready (adaptors were build for the boxster callipers) Grtz Roel |
Hi Grtz,
Thank you for the explanation about the speedo. I guess its the same as the kph speedo I have in my Mercedes. Isn't it supposed to read in kph (as well as MPH) in Begium? I also have a hydraulic handbrake on the rear of the Beetle that powers the main Porsche 928S4 calipers. But I thought it was a requirement Europewide to have a mechanical hand brake as the emergency/parking brake? My hydraulic handbrake uses the normal handbrake lever to operate the cylinder in a similar fashion to yours but it also still has the cables attached to operate the 944 handbrake shoes. I expect that the mechanical part won't do much on mine as the hydraulic circuit will lock up before the mechanical part does when I get around to filling the system with fluid, so the mech system is a bit redundant. It at least complies with the regulations. Clive |
Normaly it's kph, but it doesn't matter.. because, the same reason as the handbrake..
You have 2 choises in Belgium.. 1.. you go each year to the controle and LET YOUR CAR IN THE ORIGINELE WAY.. That means, no brakes no engine like we do... Or 2.. You go 1 time to the controle and than is your car "oldtimer" And than you only can drive to meetings.. And you can make a testdrive 1 time in the week.. It's a shame up here!! And my bug is an oldtimer and i can do "any thing a want" because i don't have to go the controle every year.. But if the cops see my brakes and my engine..?? I don't know what will heppen, i think i hear it from the judge!! :lmao::lmao: |
New pics of today!
Chassis is ready! :) http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original Adaptors for the boxster calliper.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...l.jpg~original |
Is this primarily a competition car? I notice that your brake bias is heavily to the front (assuming a 19/19 master cylinder) the Kersher rear brakes don't help with the small single pot calipers and solid discs.
Clive |
No it's just a street car.. It's also a bigger master cilinder
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...1.jpg~original Do you mean that my front brakes are to big against the rear brakes? Grtz Roel |
The front brakes will be 4 piston and the rear is shown as a single piston. A bug requires near to a 50/50 brake bias. That is to say that the braking power should be about the same front and rear because of the heavy rear weight bias transfers forward under braking. On a front engined car with a weight bias of 55% front and 45% rear the brake bias will be around 75% front and 25% rear to take care of the weight transfer under braking.
The way to calculate your current bias is to compare the total front caliper piston area/front master cylinder piston area with the total rear caliper piston area/rear master piston area. Also, the brake disc diameters will moderate the final figures but I am assuming that the front and rear discs are about the same diameter? You say that the master cylinder is larger - why? The smaller the master cylinder the more power you can apply to the brakes as the hydraulic advantage = total caliper piston area/master piston area. The downside of the smaller master piston is the longer pedal travel but generally this is minimal on a well set system. The bug 19/19 master cylinder is usually big enough for almost all applications and it will be only where massive caliper piston areas are used will you need a larger master cylinder to compensate. Clive |
The diameter is the same.. You're the first to say that the brake bias isn't correct with these calipers..
So i need? Bigger rear calipers or smaller had the front? |
You do need the same piston area or thereabouts at the front and rear if you are running a plain bore master cylinder. Alternatively, you could use a balance bar set up on the brakes so that you can run the same calipers as you have but i suspect that the difference in the master cylinder bores would be almost unobtainable. Another problem you have is that the rear disc is solid that restricts your options on calipers dramatically. You were much better off using the 944 rear disc as many of the standard Porsche alloy calipers fit. I have the 944 set up with 928S4 4 pot calipers on the rear that would complement your front set up perfectly.
I suspect the Kersher rear brakes were to match the standard disc fronts not a Porsche 4 pot units. If you want to retain some sensible brake balance you will need in my opinion to change the rear discs and calipers for a Porsche set up with 4 pot calipers. Obviously, if you can fit the same set up to the rear that you have as the front that would be ideal. I would (have) fitted a brake bias valve in the rear circuit when you have matching front and rear or more powerful rear brakes so that you can finely balance the car. For a road car the front brakes must just lock before the rear to maintain optimum control and maximum braking effort. Clive |
Looking very nice!!
What paint did you use on the chassis of the car? |
First the chassis was metalised..
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...6.jpg~original After that i sprayed coating on the chassis... http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...6.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...7.jpg~original The same i did with the frame.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...9.jpg~original |
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Just take really good notice of what he said Roel ;-) |
I can't use these rear brakes? Also with a balance bar set up on the brakes?
Because these disc and calipers are new.. :( and my pockets are almost empty after 2 $$$ years... Than i have to change the discs and calipers.. An other 1000$ |
Rule,
I think what they are trying to do is to let you know that you have built an amazing car, and that they want you to fully understand the setup that you have and the way you have it setup. It's important to know that if you run the setup you have, you can get into a scary braking situation. You have built your system (very well) however with a possible error in the configuration. Can you drive the car as it sits? Yes, just do so carefully. And at the earliest opportunity I would advise a brake upgrade in the rear. Why did you decide not to run the 944 arms and calipers? I mean I know the wheel was to wide but why not run small offsets (wheel spacers this lets you run a bit wider fender in the rear, and who doesn't like a little wide ass-end). that would allow you to maintain the 4 pot rear caliper setup. And when you do upgrade that way, make sure you cut a brake balancer into the rear brake line. Sick build great pics. thanks for sharing, and drive safely. jmd |
Yes, its more like jmr says, spot-on actually.
Just run it as is, it will be fine, but if you want more total brake action and less locking up the front tires, another possibility that just costs about 50-100 euros is to use a 944 brake master cylinder. Those have 23mm cups for the front brakes and that will lessen the front brake action somewhat, so bias will improve and pedal travel will be even less. |
@jmd my rear fender are 6cm wider..
The rear rims were 4cm to wide each side.. That 8cm in total.. My option were smaller wheel or what i did.. If i have on 1 day other wheels i can change the 944 suspension back.. @ Wally.. My master cilinder is from csp and it was order by Frank from franky's vw service after he know witch brake set-up i have on my bug. I'm gonna wait and look how the bug drives and brakes.. I'm going to be carefull.. And maybe in the future change some parts.. Thx |
My engine is ready, i'm gonne pick him up tommorow...
162hp on 5600rpm 227nm on 4500rpm On 3000rpm i have 220nm Next week is my bug ready to drive.. |
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Looking good! Love the Fuchs!
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Really sharp, keep up the good work.
Jason |
nice I really like those wheels. good job
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Thanks guy's!! I'm happy with the result, hopefully i'm happy after my first test drive!
Yesterday i lowered the rear.. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...4.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...8.jpg~original http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...4.jpg~original |
Your car is looking sweet and I love the choices in colour, very brave. The stance looks good, post us on the results on the test drive.
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Great looking car! I would get a police light to put on every now and then. Party Patrol.
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Ohh yes nice ride. Can we see closer shots of the 'striping?
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Thx!!
The striping is not very good, not symetric.. It was not what i expected, they must take place 4 new one or leave for ever.. :rolleyes: |
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