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Pillow February 17th 2007 23:05

Pan what to paint with?
 
What are you all using to paint pans?

The epoxy stuff?

POR-15

Or just get the whole thing powder coated?

chug_A_bug February 17th 2007 23:14

hey

well to what I know the best would to powder coat it but that would be $$$
so the epoxy Primer and then paint over that's the way to go


Chris.

yetibone February 18th 2007 10:19

I used POR 15 on top, and some thin undercoating and POR 15 underneath.

I painted the framehorns, framehead, and rear torsion tube with some industrial oil-based black enamel.

AusSuper February 18th 2007 11:50

how does powdercoating go with stone chips etc? ive wondered about that, once it chips cracks or anything nothings there to stop the exposed part rusting, you can't exactly fix powdercoated stuff as easy as things like POR etc, id love to know from people with experience aswell.

wrenchnride247 February 18th 2007 12:43

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Originally Posted by AusSuper (Post 57193)
how does powdercoating go with stone chips etc? ive wondered about that, once it chips cracks or anything nothings there to stop the exposed part rusting, you can't exactly fix powdercoated stuff as easy as things like POR etc, id love to know from people with experience aswell.

You are correct with trying to repair powder coating... (you just have to redo the whole part :( ). However, it takes alot to chip it (very flexible). When it does chip... you are correct in that there's nothing to stop rust. What I have done on parts prone to getting chipped is to "top coat" the color coat of powder with clear powder coat. This will add one more layer to keep from exposing bare metal. Get a piece of steel that has been "properly powder coated", and beat on it with a hammer :eek: . You will see it's very tuff stuff. POR 15 is a good choice, but in "side by side" test against Eastwood Co. "Encapsulator" the Eastwood stuff beat it. The test was done by a restoration magazine that was bias to both products.

aircooled4life February 23rd 2007 02:17

you should rhino line (or other truck bed liner) the whole pan. some of the brands are kinda expensive but there are so brands that you can paint on yourself or you can take it to a place that does it proffessionally and have them spray it.

it may make your car a little heaver but you will never have to worry about rust and it may help with sound deadining.

bigguy February 23rd 2007 12:30

you couild use masterseries as well. easier prep time then por 15.

wrenchnride247 February 24th 2007 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by aircooled4life (Post 57294)
you should rhino line (or other truck bed liner) the whole pan. some of the brands are kinda expensive but there are so brands that you can paint on yourself or you can take it to a place that does it proffessionally and have them spray it.

it may make your car a little heaver but you will never have to worry about rust and it may help with sound deadining.

Just make sure ALL signs of rust are gone before putting on bedliner material. It helps stop future rust, but does nothing for existing rust. Again, this is where the Eastwood encapusaltor comes in handy. It converts, and seals exsisting rust (like POR 15).

ricola February 24th 2007 13:46

I use rustbullet, after using POR15 it is similar but much less fussy with prep..

Racelook February 28th 2007 12:36

Epoxy.
Cheap layer of paint (to be sure to have an water-tight layer)
Bodyschutz
Top layer of good paint

bt1211 March 1st 2007 23:10

I did mine with rust bullet. Less prep work than por-15.

A good metal primer, then a couple of coats of enamel will be fine for a driver. Make sure you do your prep-work for any of these methods you choose.

Powder coating would be a waste unless this is some kind of high dollar custom, that was being paid for by the powder-coating company.

NO_H2O March 2nd 2007 04:01

We are doing an Oval for a customer and had the pan powdercoated grey and the beam and al other parts black. total was $700. I have some pix of the pan built up and it looks real nice.:cool:

bt1211 March 2nd 2007 20:13

Thats about the price that I was thinking (I've had PC work done before).

$700. is a lot of $$$ to me (when there are options under/near $100).

NO_H2O March 3rd 2007 00:02

I thought it was a good price for everthing they did. Pan, beam, trailing arms, tie rods, caps, body mount washers, etc.

Racelook March 3rd 2007 15:28

I would never powder coat the pan. (because of the torsion that's in every car)

Wiebrand

wrenchnride247 March 3rd 2007 21:56

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Originally Posted by Racelook (Post 57525)
I would never powder coat the pan. (because of the torsion that's in every car)

Wiebrand

If you are talking about flex (what your calling torsion?). They wouldn't powder coat parts like coil springs if it couldn't take this stress. Powder coat is a polyester resin that bonds to the part at the right temp. and time.

NO_H2O March 4th 2007 21:38

3 Attachment(s)
And powder coat look goooooooood too.

wrenchnride247 March 4th 2007 21:54

Looks schweet NO_H20!! Killer job man! :agree:

NO_H2O March 5th 2007 09:38

Thanks Wrench. The grey pan, black parts with stainless hardware should give this one lots of detail.

Racelook March 6th 2007 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrenchnride247 (Post 57535)
If you are talking about flex (what your calling torsion?). They wouldn't powder coat parts like coil springs if it couldn't take this stress. Powder coat is a polyester resin that bonds to the part at the right temp. and time.

You're right about the coil springs. But I've also seen alot of powder coated equipment that started with an crack (from stone hitting it, etc), that rusted out underneath. Moisture gets under it, and you just can see it in an (too) late stadium.
And as far as I know you may not seal the bonds of the pan halfs and the tunnel by powder coating. ANd how do you than prevent getting moisture between them???

Grt Wiebrand

NO_H2O March 6th 2007 09:02

We cleaned and sealed the seams after powder coating with grey seam sealer.

wrenchnride247 March 6th 2007 13:50

racelook, your right about rust under the chips (as I stated in earlier post). But if the metal is prepped right, the better the powder coat bond (just like painting). If you do get chips. If repowder coating is not an option (like floor pan). Then you can feather the edges, and use paint to touch-up. Powder coating can also be color sanded and buffed to blend the touch-up... ;)

19josh76 March 15th 2007 23:23

Hurculiner is what I would use you just brush it on. It will cost you about 100 bucks. It is durable and water tight and should last several years. Comes in 3 different colors too blk red and grey...........


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