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I been doing some thinking of after redoing my bug in basically stock form just to get it on the road (its almost done if crap would stop happening where I gotta buy other things not to do with the VW).

Well I been thinking of 2 things but not sure really.1 idea is a Volksrod theme or I guess its GL but more on the Jap style theme.
For the Volksrod idea I was going to buy a 8" extention for the front, remove fenders,bumper,apron up front, then ste the fenders for front something like a prowler where the fenders turn.The Extention beam lowers the front 2" along with the drop spindles its another 2.5".Then the rear will have the stock look but with wider fenders, and oldschool rims.Oh an paint it solid blue eventually.

Idea 2 comes from a few GL's Ive seen and from the Jap theme.Id leave my bug the colors it is. Then lower the front an rear even. THen get some mid offset wheels that are 7" wide for front an rear an get low pro tires.
I seen a few new VW's with low offset wheels where the are at the lip of the fender.Never seen a bug like this as far as I know.
But will a rim with +20-35et be ok on a bug?

Like this:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...s%20whip/2.jpg

Oh no! :( Don't jump on the "band wagon" and make VW's look like they were from Detriot in the 30's :laugh: . Don't get me wrong it's a cool look, but IMHO should be left to AMERICAN car's.

For the other part of your post. If you have a really "stiff" suspension, your tires might not rub the fenders AS MUCH during turns from body roll and bumbs in road. I went through this myself.(twelve or so years ago) Your tires WILL rub the fenders if car is lowered, and has wheels that hang past fender lip. Please keep in mind just voicing my opinion. (again)

Stiff suspension? As in what, sway bars...what else?I like the look but how would it look on a bug?Found a site that sales fenders with a flare which i did not know about,how do they look on bugs, ive looked in the members rides but i dont recall any with those fenders.

What site is this that you found them on? Im going to do something similar to mine in the next transformation it goes through which will probably start soon.

Yes, sway bars help in body roll. (tires rubbing in corners) But in stiff, I mean larger diameter rear torsion bars. (like 28mm or 29mm) The front can be stiffened up with adjustable beam installed with HD torsion bars, or keep stock bars with adjustable beam, and "pre-load" them. (a little)

I think the flared fenders are avaliable only from europe at present. The CSP site may have them. (can't remember)

http://markvfiberglass.com/index.html has the fenders an there in NV.
Would the tires rub if Im driving normal, this will be my daily driver not a race car.I mean Id understand them rubbing if I took a corner like these guys in hondas an stuff but driving the speed limit an being sensible, will they rub bad?

Vee, not sure about the quality of markv stuff these days... in the past they were not that good. You will have some rubbing. It just goes with low rides and tires outside the fender lip. I raised my ride height back up a little when my old rims stuck out (just a little) past the fenders. Here's a pic. (over twelve years ago:eek: ) I can't find a front or rear shot, but the tires stuck out about half inch. The rear wasn't dropped yet.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...6.jpg~original

Nice bug.If I go this route which most likely will happen since the Volksrod idea seems to be not legal in certain areas in Florida.
Im going to use these.
http://www.sportmaxwheel.com/sportmax_501.shtml
15x7 and 15x8's The black ones
15x7 et38 15x8 et15
I know there going to stick out an yes I will need to convert to the 4-100 bolt pattern.Id stay with drums since there a light weight wheel.That ok to do?
Then either the flared fenders or widened ones. I prefer flared but the quality I seen in a search wasnt good, holes dont match.But thats easy, just make new holes.

Those are some cool rim's :agree: . Drums will work. (for now :rolleyes:)

Any idea if I'll need spacers or anything or will it be fine?I priced them for when the time comes 89.99 each
Im only gonna lower car like 2-3" so I dont think theyd rub much if i used a low pro tire.Like a 195/45 or 50 an 205/55 in rear

They will stick out with the et15. The et38 will to, but not as much. You might want to do some back space measuring on those wheels you got, and work from there with the company you want to get these wheels from...

the backspacing of the ones on my car now or are you talking about the ones posted above?

Don't you have some "70's style" rims on your car now? (those are the ones i'm talking about) Check the back space, and get creative with some scrap wood, or an old yard stick to make a "jig" to simulate the width of the new rims.

backspacing on them are like 2" because there 4.5" wide. I emailed a site to see if they could tell me the backspacing of the wheels above.

Heres a photoshop, I think if I could photoshop it would look good.
http://i10.tinypic.com/6ch3via.jpg

ok tell me if im understanding this right please.
I was playing with the wheel calculator.
My currents are 4.5 with 0 offset
the 15x7's are 38mm offset
It says inner clearance is 70mm less (from inside wheel to strut housing or in my case, spindles?)
Then outter position it it says retract 6mm (from possiton of outer side of wheel)
So will the 15x7's be closer inside the fenders an be ok?
Then the 15x8's which are 15mm offset
Inner clearance is 59mm less from inside to the strut?
Outter position will extend 29mm (from possiton of outer side of wheel)

So whats that in inches, Im not real good in measurements:confused:

found a site:
15x7's
38mm=1.49606in.
70mm=2.75590in.
6mm=0.236220in.
15x8
15mm=0.590551in.
59mm=2.32283in.
29mm=1.14173in.
so if i did this right, im understanding there fine but will stick out a tiny bit which is ok

can anyone explain this to me?

ok, I found out that the 15x7's will just fit inside the front fenders just barely, then the 15x8's would stick out the rear fenders bout 1.5" which could be covered with wider fenders.Now would the 15x7's fit in the rear fenders if I went 15x7 front an rear, and would that look better?

You should be fine with 15x7's all around. (thats the size I had on mine all around, can't remember offset though)

Sweet! I plan on getting these eventually once I figure out what all I need an who carries what.I plan on for the first few mods, to do the suspension, make it handle corners better, just for fun, no other reasons.Im thinking of getting the black or silver, in your opinion which do you think would look good?Im thinking the black version

Cool, when you do order some wheels, make sure you get the correct lugs. There are a few types of mounting holes that need the right lug. The company can tell you though.

Ok, that I didnt know, thank you.

I apologize in advance for the negativity but "volksrods" are useless... all that time $$ and effort could be put towards a really clean fast and usefull "volkswagen" weather you decide gl or jpn look or some interpritation of your own

Volksrods are cool to me, theres really no money involved to make a Volksrod well except the extention beam which is like around 300 bucks.It pushes the wheels in front, forward 8, 10, or 12" whatever you prefer.Then you just cut the front an rear aprons, an remove the fenders, an cut the roof or whatever you like.
But Im going with JDM wheels, for my GL look:D

Hi, just want to share, I have 2 sets of rims, one is 15x7 that has a +38 off-set, 2 piece Enkei rims, wrapped with 195/55R15 on all four, and the other set is a 16x7.5 +42 off-set 2 piece Enkei rims with 205/50R16 tires on all four, my bug is a 1302-S, so to make the story short, if you have a standard beetle, you are safe with 15x7 with an off-set o +38 - +42, a little spacer will clear some rubbing, let say 1/4 to 1/2 and you can also grind some part were there is a clearance issue, here are some pics. BTW love those rims.:agree:

JDM all the way.;)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...4_270_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...4_178_full.jpg

Sweet, just the info I needed.So +38 in a 15x7" rims is safe, would the frontend require narrowing?I'll go with the adjustable beam before I go for the drop spindles since they change the offset.Would any 1/4 or 1/2" spacer work for it since it will be a vw bug drum with the 4-100 bolt pattern? I was worried I would have bad steering ratios or they would stick out really bad like some people have told me.Thanks man.By chance could I see a pic of your bug from the front, just see a bug from the frontend with that 7" wide footprint.:D

the best thing about aircooled VW is that we have no studs on our drums or rotors, b'coz of this you can test fit the rims, by using two jacks, one is to push up the car and dismount the stock rims then lower it to it's original height, and then the other jack is to support the suspension to it's original height so you can test the rims if it will rub on any part.

Norrowing is not required, just a 1/4 spacer, but test fit it first b4 you buy a spacer.

Here's a pic.of the front, the rims are 16x7 with an off-set of +40, it is wrapped with 205/50R16 tires.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...4_257_full.jpg

1/4" spacer, could I use drop spindles to use in place of the spacer if ones needed, or will that do anything.Also wouldnt mine being a standard be different in the front since yours is a super beetle an have different clearance issues?

the 1/4 spacer is for a standard beetle, yes there is a big difference on Super beetle application, and yes i think if you use a drop spindle, it will clear the parts where the rims or tires might rub.:)

I was checking out your domain, nice bug.Thing is on your site you say that it has 15x6's with a 38et :laugh: then on here its 15x7 ...ummm which is it :p
If its 15x6, thats fine too. :)

yup, it's 15x7, hav'nt edited my bugs domain for quite sometime, keep us posted on your project, goodluck.:)

I figure I'll try this first so I wont be getting new wheels.I got a friend that can do graphics in any size so I'm going to buy new chrome lugnuts and center caps.Have my friend make me some little vynil stickers for the caps.Guys any ideas?Maybe my own porsche emblem lol or a VW badge, Any ideas?
Also anyone know how much of a gap I would have in the wheel well up front with a 145/65/15 up front with 2.5" drop spindles?