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wrenchnride247 April 13th 2009 21:34

915 install
 
Well, since the forums are back up I can post some progress with tranny install. I got some parts from bug@5speed, but didn't get the transverse mount, because, looking at the mounting points it would not work with the 944 sway bar i'm going to use. So, I got some volvo 240 motor mounts, and some metal I had lying around and came up with this.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...1.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3.jpg~original

Now I have to make some mounts for the sway bar right around the area bug@5speed's transverse would go. (sorry Martin, your parts are still awsome though) You can see in the pic below the position of bar.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5.jpg~original

And a shot of car rightside-up!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...7.jpg~original

ricola April 14th 2009 04:12

Nice job on the front mount, my G50 mount ended up a bit further forwards still than that so I'll still have plenty of room for the anti roll bar too, although I want to get a bit of bracing across my new framehorns too if possible...

Rich

Wally April 14th 2009 04:37

Nice fabrication! I am still unsure if my White-line rear sway bar will fit again (haven't tried it yet), but the possible use of my old modded 915 bracket was the reason I gave priority to that.
Cool that you can flip you car to measure and do the mods!

wrenchnride247 April 14th 2009 21:59

Thank's guy's. I hope this will work OK. If not, I will make another cross member that uses porsche mounts. ;)

petevw April 15th 2009 01:55

Nice setup!

Have a pic of the entire stand?

jmd April 15th 2009 20:28

nice mounts, love the install.
I would like to see more of the details for the section where you seem to have built "Stands" that your volvo blocks are mounted.

wrenchnride247 April 15th 2009 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by petevw (Post 68855)
Nice setup!

Have a pic of the entire stand?

The rotisserie is rated for 4000lbs. I added a extra attachment point for a 3 in. 3/16th thick square tube that has three cross bars that attach to the outer edge of pan where it bolts to body (used exsiting mounting bolts for pan) I can spin the whole car 360 deg. with one hand when I have it raised to the top of stand!

These are some pix from last year, but here you go Pete...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3.jpg~original

wrenchnride247 April 15th 2009 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmd (Post 68880)
nice mounts, love the install.
I would like to see more of the details for the section where you seem to have built "Stands" that your volvo blocks are mounted.

I used the left over 3in. tubing from rotisserie addition, cut some angles from that, and welded them to the torsion housing locating off the pivot mounts for IRS. I didn't take pix of every step. You should be able to see them in one of those pix.

Sandeep April 16th 2009 09:06

Now that is sweet ! Great fab skills on the 915 installation.

Sandeep

wrenchnride247 April 16th 2009 11:36

Thank's Sandeep. I've been waiting to post this stuff here. A big thank's to getting the forums back up. ;)

NO_H2O April 16th 2009 14:19

Wrenchnride has got the skills alright. He can cut it, bend it, shape it and he can weld the crack of dawn. Mad Welding Skills.

dub_crazee April 16th 2009 15:41

very nice install - did you use the bug@ rear cradle? how does it attach to the gearbox/bell housing area?

wrenchnride247 April 16th 2009 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by dub_crazee (Post 68916)
very nice install - did you use the bug@ rear cradle? how does it attach to the gearbox/bell housing area?


Yes, I have a bug@5speed rear cradle. It comes with aluminum blocks shaped to fit the 915 bell housing. The blocks are bolted to cradle with four rubber mounts. You will have to drill holes through blocks and bell housing. Then, you must also use "flat head" hardware so it dosen't hit flywheel.

wrenchnride247 April 30th 2009 22:23

I thought some pix of the Bug@5fivespeed parts I used might be helpful.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...0.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...7.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original

The rest of the tranny rebuild was done by Carquip. They are top notch (but not cheap) Very happy with their services and support. They also added something very nice to my gearbox... can we say TRACTION!!!!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original

chug_A_bug April 30th 2009 23:06

They also added something very nice to my gearbox... can we say TRACTION!!!!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original[/QUOTE]


WOW Just Keep it out and Mount it as a trouphy :D
that's One Sexy peace...


Chris.

Wally May 1st 2009 03:52

Wow! :eek: a Paul Guard (GT) diff! That is a torque biassing diff right? Never seen one of those from him, but whatever comes from Guard Transmissions is absolutely top notch!

Very, very weel chosen. Pity they cost so much as I would love to have a TBD for the G50.
Well, there must be s/th to be wishfull for ;)

What made you decide for the TBD over a LSD?

wrenchnride247 May 1st 2009 20:41

Thank's guys. Wally, Carquip only sells GT products. I asked about getting a Quaife TBD, and they said they were a little too "industrial" for their standards :rolleyes: The GT LSD was more than the TBD so I did get the cheap one ;)

I can't wait to drive it!

Clatter May 2nd 2009 00:46

Quote:

I did get the cheap one
OK, It's killing me.. Got to have something to dream about...
(Don't you hate it when people ask this question)?

How much did that Bad Kid set you back??

wrenchnride247 May 2nd 2009 20:54

$1495 US for just the diff.

wrenchnride247 October 25th 2009 22:14

Got some time to make the 915 shift rod work for my install with a 915 shifter. Only had to cut the rod, flip one end around for more angle, and add a 7" piece of 1" tubing.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...1.jpg~original

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...4.jpg~original

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5.jpg~original

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...6.jpg~original

wrenchnride247 October 25th 2009 22:25

I also cut 1" off the end of the selector rod on the tranny to give more clearance in the tunnel. The shaft is hardened so had to use solid carbide bit to drill new set screw hole.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3.jpg~original

chug_A_bug October 26th 2009 18:11

love your Work dude...:thumbup:

Chris.

wrenchnride247 November 15th 2009 21:31

OK. I changed my mind on using the Volvo mounts. I didn't want the nose of my trans just supported by rubber. I could have redone the mounts to make it work, but went another route. I like this set-up better. I MIG welded this stuff. These are urethane bushings from Summit racing. This deal will hold up better I think.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...6.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...7.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...8.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...9.jpg~original

evilC November 16th 2009 08:24

I like all the work but did you consider the ground clearance?

Clive

wrenchnride247 November 16th 2009 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilC (Post 72326)
I like all the work but did you consider the ground clearance?

Clive

Yes, ground clearance was measured when car was still together Clive. The rear sway-bar, and header system sit about the same level. It just looks like it sits real low. The volvo mounts sat even lower than this. If I'm not happy with it when the car is put back together for final mock-up I will change it...no big deal for me (I've got a 911 crossmember to cut-up too) just trying something different. Thanks for the comment's though.:)

Wally November 16th 2009 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrenchnride247 (Post 68813)

I had the same thoughts as Clive when you showed the last pics:very nice work, but how low?
It looked like your trans sits lower than mine sat. The above pic I copied from your first post suggests this also: the gearbox flanges are pretty low, like when you would put a CV onto them, they would hit the forks...
Could be optical illusion though...
My 100mm CV's on the 915 sat VERY close to the forks and stil it looked like I had more ground clearence.
Just thinking out loud with you here and hoping to give you some reference ;)

wrenchnride247 November 16th 2009 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally (Post 72338)
I had the same thoughts as Clive when you showed the last pics:very nice work, but how low?
It looked like your trans sits lower than mine sat. The above pic I copied from your first post suggests this also: the gearbox flanges are pretty low, like when you would put a CV onto them, they would hit the forks...
Could be optical illusion though...
My 100mm CV's on the 915 sat VERY close to the forks and stil it looked like I had more ground clearence.
Just thinking out loud with you here and hoping to give you some reference ;)

Wally, The mounting position was set by Martin Bott's engine support. If it set any higher I couldn't close my deck lid. The camera angle may be the problem. I have 944 flanges on the trans. I could of easily took a hammer to the frame horns to make clearance for CV's, but what fun would that be :rolleyes:

wrenchnride247 November 16th 2009 17:28

OK people. I just took some more pix, at a better angle, so you can see it doesn't sit any lower than the bottom of the lowest point on the trans case. I hope this helps. (I was looking at the pix and thought it looked low too after Clive posted)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...0.jpg~original

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original

Wally November 16th 2009 17:42

Good angle as it is indeed not any lower than the tranny rib. No worries then ;)

wrenchnride247 November 16th 2009 22:24

Wow, I even feel better about it now. I should have posted a better angle the first time :o Metal fabricators make lousy photographers! :lmao:

evilC November 17th 2009 08:10

And I thought I was looking at it upside down!:lmao::lmao:

Clive

dub_crazee November 17th 2009 15:38

lovin your fabrication skills dude :) mount looks proper sturdy!


i was thinking about the rear cradle but did wonder about clearence issues with the flywheel. if using countersunk bolts ( i gues thats what u mean by flat headed hardwear?) i was concerned about the thickness of the bell housing where it would be bolted through? what are your thoughts on this?

loving your work

Deano

wrenchnride247 November 17th 2009 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by dub_crazee (Post 72366)
lovin your fabrication skills dude :) mount looks proper sturdy!


i was thinking about the rear cradle but did wonder about clearence issues with the flywheel. if using countersunk bolts ( i gues thats what u mean by flat headed hardwear?) i was concerned about the thickness of the bell housing where it would be bolted through? what are your thoughts on this?

loving your work

Deano

Thank you for the compliments. The "countersunk" bolts are the recommendation of Martin (bugat5speed) these are the only bolts that will clear the ring gear. The bellhousing is very thick, and should not be an issue.

wrenchnride247 November 23rd 2009 23:11

OK. Sort of an update (no pix :() After pulling the trans in and out several times (another part of this post) with this new front crossmember...I'm going to change it AGAIN :banghead: it makes it really hard to drop the trans out. So, plan C is taking shape. Right now I'm reworking the bottom of the chassis where the shift coupler and rod mate (Which is what got me thinking about the crossmember) it will be water tight, and use some more porsche parts. ;) Work and the holiday coming up will keep me from having it complete for at least a week or more...

jmd December 4th 2009 14:56

spring plate covers?
 
can you tell me what type of spring plate covers your using? I was re-reading this thread and noticed they are pretty clean looking.

Great work on that new mount, I myself am creating a new custom solution as I have not had much luck with the bug@5spd guys being any sort of responsive... oh well, I can fab up my own stuff.


thanks for continuing to share you build progress.

wrenchnride247 December 4th 2009 23:05

The covers are 944's with some machine work done to them ;)

I'm busy with other people's problems (again) so, mine is sitting (again) :mad:

I had no problems with Martin and Alex...

wrenchnride247 January 1st 2010 01:43

OK. This should be the last mount bar (I think) The mounting pads on the pan were for these from the start, but wanted to try other mounts just to be different. The boot is from the 911 the trans came out of, and seemed like a good way to keep water out of the tunnel. So, had to put the fab skill's to work again on a "box" for the shift rod and linkage to come through. No getting in the back of the car anymore to remove the shift rod coupling!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...2.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...4.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5.jpg~original
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...7.jpg~original

Wally January 1st 2010 06:39

That is absolutely SUPER how you made that shift rod entry box and seal!!
Never seen it before, but should be the standard from now on :)

I should have done s/th simularly...

ricola January 1st 2010 07:09

Now we're talking! That's superb... From looking at it the only improvement I can think of is to extend the fillet pieces from the trans mounting plate further up the bar to better resist twisting. I've just finished painting my pan but you are making me consider changing it already!!!

http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabri...is_paint_1.jpg http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabri...nnel_close.jpg

NO_H2O January 1st 2010 16:06

That came out sweet. Great idea to use a bus boot. Looks very clean.


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