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TSAF October 6th 2010 06:16

Pauter big block 3140cc type 4
 
Hey all.
I would like to know the potential of Pauter’s big block 3140cc type 4 engine in terms of horsepower with the following changes

A lot wilder camshaft, raised compression ratio from 8.25:1 to 10.5:1 or even to 11.5:1, 50’s or even 52's throttle bodies, a good ecu, 100 octane gas and of course dry sump.

Any ideas? Do you think is possible the 300bhp benchmark????

judgie October 7th 2010 04:16

i think the pauter motor is a type 1 style engine useing type 4 main bearing sizes. saying that i dont think you can really call it a type 1 engine as you can build one with out useing any vw parts :lmao:
the power output sounds about right though.

TSAF October 7th 2010 05:45

No the new motor case is a type 4 all around. Anyway I have contacted Pauter and they told me that this bhp can be achieved but they are worried with the cooling issues

Bug@5speed(US) October 7th 2010 13:02

TSAF,

I haven't been over to their site, but any insight on the price of this type 4 style case..
Alex

Jim Hunter October 17th 2010 16:29

If you are serious Autocraft can easily exceed the 300bhp mark.
You just need around 22k US $ and you are set,,,

TSAF October 18th 2010 03:29

[QUOTE=Jim Hunter;78028]If you are serious Autocraft can easily exceed the 300bhp mark.
You just need around 22k US $ and you are set,,,[/Q

I bought my moldex crank from them. The point is that their engines are not suitable for everyday use. Therefore only pauter can help. I know Remmele has a 3 liter type 4 as well but for some reason he is not responding to any emails.

Jim Hunter October 18th 2010 14:34

It is common that they will not respond at e-mails...Call them they speak English French and German very well 00497221-972224 and 00497221-972225...
As for the cooling it is a issue as with the temps that we have here is good only for "winter driving" !!!

TSAF October 19th 2010 03:21

I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.

evilC October 19th 2010 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAF (Post 78047)
I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.

What Hewland box are you thinking of using? The Mk9 (VW case) and the FD200 are only rated at 150lb.ft torque. The alternative quoted is the FTR that is still only rated at 240lb.ft and I would expect that your Pauter would develop more than that. The other thing is that most of the competition 'boxes have dog clutch engagement that is a noisy pain on the street. You might be better off with a G50 + oil cooling that'll just about handle the torque although it'll need some chassis mods.

Clive

onixbonilla October 19th 2010 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAF (Post 78047)
I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.

That's my type of VW nut!!! You got a dream, we only live once, go after it! I am in the process of selling my STI for funding my next VW project!:)

TSAF October 20th 2010 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bug@5speed(US) (Post 77945)
TSAF,

I haven't been over to their site, but any insight on the price of this type 4 style case..
Alex

Pauter Big Block for Chrysler or Ford main bearing saddles
includes: wet or dry sum pan, top & front covers, flywheel plate, distributor clamp & misc fasteners goes for 2700 usd.

TSAF October 20th 2010 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by onixbonilla (Post 78057)
That's my type of VW nut!!! You got a dream, we only live once, go after it! I am in the process of selling my STI for funding my next VW project!:)

Only one MAJOR problem to my plans. Here in Greece the financial situation is a mess at the moment, therefore there is no-one buying.

TSAF October 22nd 2010 04:38

I talked with Mike from Autocraft but their case is not suitable for type IV application. Therefore the only brand new case on the market comes from Pauter only.

70Turbobug October 24th 2010 09:37

I would be conserned about cooling also using a Pauter Motor on the street.The Pauter Pro heads are great and the motors are awesome,but not designed for street use.I know Remmele well,and he is hard to get a hold of by phone and email sometimes.If you are interested in a 3 liter or larger from Remmele send me a pm with your name,phone number,email and address and I´ll try to get a hold of him for you.;)

70Turbobug October 24th 2010 09:43

Also,I would rather go with a Porsche gearbox if you plan on 300BHP.A Hewland will not hold the torque.Remmele´s 3 liter puts out 350NM,the Pauter won´t be any less either.An early G50 short nose or a late model 915 will work without any problems.You can of course have a bug gearbox built to take that power aswell.


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