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70Turbobug December 2nd 2010 05:14

Nice video Pete! He was taking it easy ;) Probably because there was no seat installed.It can be much more violent than in the video.The new engines are a little stronger also.The engine in the picture has been sold,currently the car doesn´t have an engine in it. I think there´s a 3.2 finished that will be installed - if it doesn´t get sold first:rolleyes:

TSAF December 2nd 2010 05:25

The sound is terrible on the video. I would love to hear this engine rev up hard.

petevw December 2nd 2010 13:35

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Originally Posted by TSAF (Post 78614)
The sound is terrible on the video. I would love to hear this engine rev up hard.

I know the sound sucks, but this small picture camera is all i had with me.

http://canon.digital-cameras-photo.c...0064O89Y-M.jpg

When Eddie said, wanna go for a ride - jump in.... was i to refuse because i didn't have a video camera handy? :lmao:


Pete

SilverBullet December 4th 2010 02:43

Yes, it was the same for me too, had to sit on the floor! But those were not the wheels when I was there, it was the ones on the vw speed mag. Eddie and Beate are nice people. and their pet dobermans!! Will visit them mid this month if they are open.

70Turbobug December 4th 2010 06:49

They should be open until the 19th iirc. The car has 19" wheels on it now from OZ.

SilverBullet December 4th 2010 08:15

Will call them when i reach Munich, only be there from 18-22.

TSAF December 10th 2010 13:25

rs-motor
 
What about these heads from rs-motor

Technical data:
-Intake valves 46.5 to 54 mm, outlet 38 to 44 mm
-6 cylinder mounting point
-Spark plug M12 x 1.25
-Outlet for Type 1 Style Exhaust
-Billet valve cover screwed with 6-O-ring seal
-Combustion chamber, intake port, exhaust port completely CNC machined
-Cylinder bore 103 - 105 mm
-Price from 1,590 €
The photos are very impressive to say at least.

http://www.rs-motor.at/2009/08/bille...he-356912.html

What do you think in terms of cooling?

Wally December 10th 2010 15:59

Looks very nice, but difficult to judge what cooling will be like.
I don't know anyone who runs those yet.

Would that price be for two complete heads? If so, that would be a breakthrough in pricing!

70Turbobug December 11th 2010 07:25

RS-Motor does good work actually. I´m not sure how well those heads will cool being billet aluminum.They´re definetly strong enough and would work well for racing applications on short tracks or drag racing or hillclimb,but I would have my doubts about prolonged use.The price is acceptable as they have virtually the same heads for a 912/356 application.The whole kit costs 3000 euros.That´s a decent price.It´s too bad they didn´t post any more info on those heads on their website or other engines with those heads mounted.Onboard videos or dyno videos are a great tool for convincing potential customers.Interesting ,they have a 3 Liter with Remmele heads on their site that is in a bus..

Wally December 11th 2010 14:02

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Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 78734)
Interesting ,they have a 3 Liter with Remmele heads on their site that is in a bus..

And a 2.7 ltr 'race' engine that makes similar or even more hp iirc with... original head castings :lmao:

TSAF December 13th 2010 11:53

So basically we do not have any serious feedback about them.

drgouk December 16th 2010 05:44

Im buliding a 2789cc pauter engine for my street car. There seems to be a bit of wrong info here regarding the pauter engine.
There is no such thing as a type 4 pauter engine, Pauters only make super pro heads in type 4 stud pattern., no engine blocks
Pauter blocks are available in type 1 stud pattern, autocraft stud pattern , arpm stud pattern and pauters own spread bore stud pattern for 4 plus bore sizes.
the blocks accept either a type 1 flanged crank with type 4 mains, this block has a steel back chrysler main and proper thrust bearing, the chrysler main is the same diameter as the type 4!
The other block in pauters spread bore pattern uses ford 351 v8 main bearings, and pauters billet crank.

I have Don pauters blessing with what I am doing. My compression will be set at 9.5:! and will run on 98 pump gas.
Cylinder heads fins have been deepened by Don for street use
I will have mine on our super flow 902 engine dyno later in the year. and then in my 65 bug.

I don'nt think Pauters encourage the sale of the engines for street use as they do not have a complete off the shelf street package, however if you call them and let them know you have the capability of seeing the project through, they will entertain you. Don is a great guy, very helpfull and truthfull.

drgouk December 16th 2010 05:46

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70Turbobug December 17th 2010 06:25

Quote:

There seems to be a bit of wrong info here regarding the pauter engine.
There is no such thing as a type 4 pauter engine, Pauters only make super pro heads in type 4 stud pattern., no engine blocks
Hi drgouk,that is correct.The option was either a complete Pauter engine or a large type 4 with Pauter heads vs. a large type 4 with Engine Plus,stock type 4 head castings,Remmele or RS heads.;)

Regardless,Pauter makes excellent engines and has excellent products and service.The cooling capacity of the Pauter head is limited and not really ideal for autobahn or circle track use.It wasn´t designed to be so either. It is great as a street/strip application.


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