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Old January 12th 2006, 12:40
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Johnathan...

accusing someone of fraud is a serious thing. For one, do you realize how
hard it is to prove? You have to prove intent. Not giving someone something
that they paid for is not necessarily fraud. Fraud is one you actually schemed
to take people money and not supply someone with a product of service.
Fraud is a criminal act. Accussing someone of fraud, means that you believe
that it was their intent to steal your money and not give you anything for it.

Carbon Joe on the other had has supplied hundreds of people with product.
His situation in life changed and he may no longer have the time/nor the
money to supply product to people that already paid for it. This my friend is
not fraud. This is civil. All Joe has to do in a court of law is prove that he
supplied hundreds of his product to customers and even if he has 20
customers that didnt get product, that isnt fraud if he intended to supply
that product, but circumstances beyond his control didnt allow him to supply
that product to them.

Lots of companies have hardships (usually financial) and the customer suffers.
Normally, when victims report this to the authorities, they will be told to go
to civil court to sue them. This is never usually brought to criminal court
unless a proven track record of defrauding has gone on and the prosecutor
had enough evidence to bring it before the courts.
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