I know it will be a shock to you but, I have to work. I will try to tune in from work if it is slow but don't count on it. John an I will have a little meeting of our own at N vs S. ;-). I did hook up with Zen today for a short time, the cards are great. I don't think the BK boys have cards but they do have cool jackets. I saw Kevin Smith's jacket tonight, I has over at his place getting SmacktalkinOrange's electrical system strait. Looks and Horsepower do no good if your wiring don't work.;-) Zen and I kicked around some ideas for jacket. BK jackets are cool, but not the coolest. We could get some way cool jackets done if that sounds cool to ya'll.