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Old November 9th 2004, 17:25
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is this turbo acceptable?

My engine plans are going in the area of a turbo charged 1776 or 1835 T1. I've just started doing some reasearch, so i'm not yet knowlegable to know if this particular turbo is an acceptable size. it's a 1G 14B TD05 apparently off of an eclipse gsx. the eclipse's are 4 cyl engines and i think this turbo could be made to work. it's a pretty killer deal on ebay..........turbo/wastegate w/ intercooler & boost guage. i wont be putting it on the car in the near future but i'm strongly considering getting these parts. What do you think?.........is this turbo acceptable for the vw t1?

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Old November 9th 2004, 21:30
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I'm no turbo expert, but here goes...

The first thing to consider is whether or not you want it to fit under the stock decklid. If so, then the size of the turbo is a factor.

Secondly, understand that any turbo will work as long as you have sufficient exhaust pressure to turn the turbine. What you want to consider here is how much boost you want, or need for you engine combo. Then pick a unit that is designed in that range. Then you can regulate it through blow off valves etc...

As far as the Eclipse turbo, I'm not familiar with that particular model, but I have seen alot of guys using them. shoptalkforums' Forced induction forum would be a good spot to search for specific info, as those guys are experts per se.

Finally, a third consideration with specific turbos are the mounting options. If you are looking to fabricate most if not all of the pipework, almost any turbo should be okay. If you are looking to buy a prefab system and bolt on your turbo, you might run into problems.

Again, there are a litany of considerations when it comes to this topic, but if you get a steal on the turbo, grab it. If you decide not to use it, then you can always sell it. I would have it checked out by a competent shop before you drop serious coin. Turbo rebuilds can be expensive.
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Old November 9th 2004, 22:36
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thanks much for the info. it's quite a steal so i'm gonna go ahead and bid on it. it will be quite sometime before i use these parts anyway, but a turbo, two top mount intercoolers, & a boost guage currently at 75 bucks. at that price i figure i cant go wrong. guess i can alway get a bigger turbo later if i feel like it.

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Old November 10th 2004, 22:29
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Im no turbo expert either, but done some reading on it so,...

As rustbucket said above but from a different kind of view:

1 any engine could be turboed. Thats a fact. but it will work if you have a turbo of the correct size regarding cc's which translates to exhaust gas volume per cycle.

2 another consideration is that big turbo's have much more lag which means that you lose drivability as you get to bigger turbos. There are some turbo kits ready for the t1 engine.

I believe that getting a turbo at the same range as the ones in the kits will be a good idea

Last but not least matter is the mounting: depends on what you want your car to look like and how well you want your car to perform.

fitting a turbo doesnt mean that due to pressurized intake is ok to go with a bulky design. From my point of view and my knowledge a suitable sized turbo setup with the correct ducting would do miracles.there are many things to consider and paying a bit more is better to get the most from your ducting just to name a few: correct diameter tubes with nice curvy bends equal length tubes for the exhasut and intake sides... and many many more aspects each one with a special reason.

Without wanting to be an a$$ and ruin your plans on the ebay thing I wouldnt expect much from these parts. they seem a good but cheap deal and might not work nicely.
Please dont quote me on the last one though. Its my "policy" to save more money and get things like that new just to be sure and save me a lot of headaches.

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Old November 10th 2004, 22:49
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Right on the money. You said much of what I was trying to put down earlier. Especially if it's the first time messing around with turbo'd engines, the safest bet is to get a system that is already engineered for the purpose.

My main objection with eBay parts is that they almost always need a rebuild. An imbalanced turbo, or one with bad bearings can spell major mulah($$$$$). You just never know what you'll get.
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Old November 11th 2004, 17:42
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Thanks alot guys. I ended up not purchasing that setup. Like you said, I though about it & figured it's cheap for a reason, & I havn't yet done enough reasearch on the turbo subject to make a sound desicion. But i've buried my head in the forced induction forum over at shoptalk and, whew,.........tons of information leading to more tons of more specific information. I'm still getting my head wrapped around it but i think i know what direction i want to go in now. Just need to fine tune the concept in my head. but here's my basic thoughts so far.......

1915cc T1
megasquirt injection
garret t3, maybe a t3/t4 hybrid if i feel like spending extra $$$
water/air intercooler supplied by some radiator/heater core upfront, & i think it would be possible to use water from the same system to supply the turbo given it's watercooled capable...........i think setting up a cooling sys. like this would not only cool the charge (obviously) but prolong the lifespan of the turbo.

What do you think?

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