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Old September 25th 2005, 04:23
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250 hp for $1500 with adapter any one?

Thinking of cows jumping over the moon one night laying in bed thinking, I decided that the subaru EJ20T is an excellent choice for a motor. And for the value, it can't be beat.

Here is how I came up with the $1500 figure:

EJ20T from Nippon-motors.com - $650

Shipping average - $200

Adapter with fly wheel from kennedy engineering - $410

Clutch from anyone your little heart desires - $190

ECU off of Ebay - $50

A 915/901 wouldn't have any problems holding up to this motor which would be one wicked little combo. Not to bad since a 150 hp air-cooled motor averages between $3000-$4500, which is what you could get this whole setup for.

I'm going with the EJ20TT. I'm doing a single turbo conversion. I'll run the motor at 18 lbs of boost until it blows up then get a STI shortblock and put forged and billet goodies and cryo and nitride the block and crank and then put 33 lbs of boost and then play with my 540 hp 6 speed toy.
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Old September 28th 2005, 00:02
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ok..i see where you are coming from.

so now..on top of those prices you said.

add...3-400 for custom exhaust
radiator install
different fuel pumps
return lines and what not into the fuel tank .etc .etc

dont forget to add up all the little things or you will get a nasty shock.

its still definately a better bang for your buck conversion than an aircooled motor.


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Old October 4th 2005, 14:09
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Its a popular conversion over here, check out www.tsrdragracers.co.uk or www.ricola.co.uk for details.

I'd like to do it to mine, but I'm undecided. Its either that or a turbo'd 1776 with EFI!
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Old October 5th 2005, 01:31
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Its a popular conversion over here, check out www.tsrdragracers.co.uk or www.ricola.co.uk for details.

I'd like to do it to mine, but I'm undecided. Its either that or a turbo'd 1776 with EFI!
I hate to burst your bubble but that is definately comparing apples to oranges.

A turbo'd 1776 will get about 180 hp TOPS. And thats being generous. The EJ20T has 227 hp stock with cats and all of the emission crap and stock ecu. With a free flow exhaust, larger fuel pump, injectors and EMS...340 hp is not uncommon according to several tuners (Danzio,Xcceleration,Crawford,Cobb).

The stock internals go to **** once you get rambuctious and turn the boost to 20 lbs.. The rods are the first to go on average at 405 hp, then the wrist pins at 415 hp, then the pistons start getting holes blown in them at 420 hp. I've seen an EJ20TT block with billet "H" beam rods and forged pistons with the stock block and crank pull a 660 hp dyno run. Obviously on 112 race gas, but it did it. 18 lbs is the limit with still being some what safe. Most guys will have the boost set to 16 lbs and run it on race gas to prevent detonation and be safe.

Always be prepared to spend more than what you planned, just so you don't get sticker shock.

The adapter alone to my G50 is $772! To a 901/915 is $410. The only reason why i'm going with such an exotic tranny is cause it's the only one that'll handle 800 ft. lbs of torque. If anyone knows of another strong tranny with LSD, please let me know. I don't want to drop $4500 into a tranny then find out there was something hidden out there that was cheaper and lighter.
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Old October 9th 2005, 14:54
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curious why you are doing a single turbo conversion to a twin turbo block. when i looked into it a while back, the blocks were the same, only difference was the twin turbo had a higher compression ratio.
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From what I've read earlier twin turbo blocks were closed deck, just an easy way to make sure you get a CDB when building a high bhp engine!
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