freezing

fweem1970 · #1 July 2nd 2003, 02:35

has any one here heard of cryofreezing engin parts to make them stronger? if so how well does it work? and what is the physics behind the idea?

zen · #2 July 2nd 2003, 07:18

i don't remember the details. VWTrends had some info on it during jake's Forthcomings build. check through 2002 mags or go to jake's site or his forum on this site.

kdanie · #3 July 2nd 2003, 11:26

Cryo treatment has proven to work very well. Check out the companies that perform the service and read their web sites. Parts are placed in a computerized machine that regulates how fast the temp drops, how long it holds and how fast it rises back to room temp. This time regulation is critical to correct treatment. I hear there are a couple of places that just put your parts in an ice chest, flood it with liquid nitrogen and come back later.... not good- use only a reputable company. Different alloys require different timing, if the vendor does not know this, find a new vendor.

I have used OneCryo in WA state. I did my cam/lifters/cylinders.

It works best on ferous metals but other metals also benifit from the treatment. I recall Jake saying that aluminum heads run cooler after treatment.
ken

fweem1970 · #4 July 2nd 2003, 12:46

does any one have ant links to sites that offer this service i looked on jakes site and saw nothing

zen · #5 July 2nd 2003, 14:55

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Originally posted by fweem1970
does any one have ant links to sites that offer this service i looked on jakes site and saw nothing

that is because you would need to go through jake for his services. i believe he is using someone in GA though. i do not know of any names off the top of my head. i will see if i can dig something up. if you do find something on your own, please post here so i can make sure those links make it onto the VKG links page.

kdanie · #6 July 2nd 2003, 20:51

Just go to www.google.com and type in "cryogenic treatment of auto parts". You will get several links to compainies that offer the service.
ken

havik180 · #7 July 3rd 2003, 17:33

another good site to check is www.howstuffworks.com they have some good information

yetibone · #8 July 3rd 2003, 19:48

I know of a company called Diversified Cryogenics that makes a product called "Frozen Rotors" that's popular in SCCA ProRally, and ClubRally, where brakes catch hell all the time. They may be able to treat engine parts as well.

Sorry, I don't have any contact info right now. I'll talk to my rally buddy and see how to get in touch.

Yetibone

yetibone · #9 July 3rd 2003, 19:51

Diversified Cryogenics:
1-888-323-8456

They also have a website:
www.diversifiedcryogenics.com

They can treat most any steel, aluminum, or iron alloys.

Yetibone

Massive Type IV · #10 July 8th 2003, 01:40

I use www.percryo.com for my services. They have 31 different profiles for my engines..

About 75% of what I build gets it!

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