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Old July 1st 2005, 23:59
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Modding The Rear On My 65..

What can I do for a more race type setup on the rear of my car..
Its lowerd a bit in the rear but its all stock..(Swing Axle/Drums)
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Intended for
Roadracing,AutoCross,Track day,Agressive driving...

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Old July 2nd 2005, 09:34
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given your list of intents and not knowing budget restrictions, i would say convert to IRS, disk conversion, adjustable shocks (Koni, etc) and a rear sway bar. throw in a cup brace as well.

cash no limit, you can look at coilovers.
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Old July 2nd 2005, 11:26
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What is invaled with a IRS Convertion¿
I got a local guy selling a IRS Trans for $80
what all would I need?
And for the disc.. Im Planning Ither VDubs 944's Or some AP,Willwood ect..ect..
My bugget is small but I tend to find ways..
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Old July 3rd 2005, 05:34
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for IRS you should need:
trailing arm brackets
trailing arms
IRS trans
Irs Axles
IRS brake setup for the rear.(as i dont think you can put early brakes on a late Trailing arm)
probabaly E-brake cables.
Trailing arm bushings

It would be easiest if you went to a scrapyard so when you get the trailing arms you get all of the junk with it. like brake hardlines,clips, brake assys., stub axles, bearings,
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Old July 3rd 2005, 15:50
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Buy a straight IRS pan, strip it down and clean it up, then put all the goodies you want on it, and when your happy, put your body on it. The ease of access and the fact that you can keep your ride going in the mean time makes for a simple swap. Getting those IRS conversions in is straightforward enough, but you need a jig and its a hard place to get to.

You'll have to cut the rear shock tower mounts on your older body and re-weld them it but it's really easy.

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Old July 4th 2005, 19:05
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Ok..
So im now in the prosess of finding a rolling 68-69 IRS setup..
What should i look for..
What should I take a look at (Coil overs,Tranz,Brakes..)
what are some of the best mods I can do after I find the right setup & im ready to start my project..
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Old July 5th 2005, 13:25
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Upgrade brakes. Cost is the limiting factor here, but 944 seems to be the way to go, though you'll have to run Porsche bolt pattern. There is a lot of info on how to do front and rear brake upgrades on this forum, and also all the different ways to do if from mild to wild, so just do some searching.

Depending on how big of wheels you want to run and how low you want to go, you may or may not need dropped spindles, but an adjustable front beam is always good.

How much time and money are you going to spend on this thing? What do you want it to look like? Regular black undercoating, or DasDubber?

Either way, having a rolling chassis to work on makes EVERYTHING a lot easier, and you should be able to get a good one really cheap. Just make sure the front end is not bent at all from an accident.

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Old July 5th 2005, 13:50
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Well the 65 im driving was kinda of a rush job
(Crashed My Ranger & had nothing to drive)
So I slammed it togeather with some trick stuff on the way..
Its funny you Said DasDubber..
I inspired him to try fiberglass..
He inspired me to Start a new car..lol
I would be shooting for more of the Race Ready Type..
I want to do some track days & stuff like that..
Agressive Driving is what I do on the weekend or well any time I can get out of the town..
Asfar as how much to spend & How long till its finished..
I wouldent put a $$ on it..
I'd go slow to get better parts..
Id prolly use my 1835cc..T1 motor untill I could go T4
But Id say 1-2 years after the party starts..
Cage,Bitch'n Suspension & Lexan Windows(Air Scoops¿)
Possable Drop down Brake,Clutch ped. set..
1-2 seater not sure.. (Race seats/harness)
Porsche BBS maybe..
That sick *** STACK all in 1 Tach,speedo,oil,volts,air temp..
I found some sick tail lights off a 05' Yamaha RoadStar
They are all white w/LED's inside.. somewhat OG shape
Peace Troy
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Old July 27th 2005, 18:38
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Don't mean to contradict any advice already given, but logged in here to say the swingaxle cars actually go through corners juat as well as the semi-trailing setup. in my opinion

So if you're on a tight budget, my advice is keep your swingaxles & just fit a z-bar/camber compensator on the rear axle, along with some gas or koni shocks on the rear end. You could also lower the rear about an inch.
You should be able to pull around 0.9G in corners with this setup, even on the stock 155R15 tyres

Only advantage to the semi-trailing rear end is that it holds a straight line better and is generally more predictable.

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