Most Reliable Power per Dollar Spent!?

[Mysticle31]

Alright, wherever I go, and ask engine questions. I get Talk to Jake Talk to Jake. I've got the idea.. I've also gotten a few. "Ya whatever go build a 1916 type 1 and boost it!" And mabey one person sugested to build a 2117 T1.

would it be worth it to build a big or turbo type 1 while saving for jakes kit (the only type 1 stuff I have is mabey a tired engine. I may be able to get some ratio rockers and some 041 heads. Where as I have a 1.8 or 2.0L T4 shortblock with Webber 44s and manifolds. They all need rebuilds)

or should I just say ya whatever and put the car in the gerage (the 1600 thats in it is tired. Don't know how tired but it's tired) and save to buy the engine and stuff it in? (in the mean time all the money from my old car will go into this car doing paint and interior work)

Or should I just drive it as a tired 1600? How reliable are the tired 1600s? If it will slowly yet reliably. I can save mucho gas $$ buy not driving the 4200lb Ranchero!

[Supa Ninja]

Here's what I would do I were in your shoes. Take your core Type IV engine, rebuild it, put a cam in it and some Porsche 2L heads on it. That should be good for about 120 horses, plenty to spank most hondas and some slower 8's. Save your money and get a sick engine from Jake or another reputable builder. While your at it go through the suspension, then the interior/paint. Looking at the pics it looks like it's straight enough to drive, looks wise.

Nick

[Mysticle31]

Makes me wonder how many magic beans that will cost? perahps it would be better to boost 'er I can build it so junkyard rebuilt turbo.

I'm used to my MK2 VR6 with chip. 13.8 @ 102 in the quarter. never clocked 0-60.

[Supa Ninja]

It will cost a lot less then a another engine to replace the one that you grenaded cause you didn't build up the internals to take the boost. If you want reliable power go N/A, if you want a timebomb rocket go turbo. You could always stuff a H2O engine with turbo in your bug, like a 1.8T, or there abouts. Thats a reliable 180 horses, sure your decklid won't close but it's a turbo.

[boygenius]

To turbo the engie will reqire the carburetors to be modified to handle boost. You must decide on draw through or blow through set-up. If you go with a draw through design you must have a turbo with a special seal to handle extreme vaccum. I think its called a carbon seal but I'm not sure. Other wise when you close the throttle quickly and cause a strong vaccum in the turbo the engine oil can be sucked out of the turbo and through your engine. Most turbos from production cars don't have the required seal for a draw through design. To blow through requires extensive work to the carbs to make them able to enrich themselfs under boost. You might want to do some reading on turbo charging your engine. "Turbomania" is a good book if a little dated, but still good information. There is another book that I used to have, I think it was called "turbocharging your engine" or something like that. The book had a calloway twin turbo V-8 on the cover and a turbo Mclaren on the rear cover. Maybe somebody knows what the name of that book really is. Anyway there was some good general turbo information in that book.

Or you could go fuel injected...

[TitoRay]

Ok Mysticle, reading your posts I have come to a conclusion. Get a 2270 from jake Raby that utilizes LNEngineering's nickies.
It's gonna cost a pretty penny (7-10k??)
My mentality towards Jake's engines are that they are so professionally built that in the long run, compared to using anything else, they will pay for themselves.
From what i gather:
150-165 hp with this engine combo, maybe more.
excellent gas mileage
no guesswork
way less maintenance
ton of torque
car is gonna haul ***
engine lasts forever
great technical support
etc., etc.
Might as well get a tranny from him as well.

[Mysticle31]

I would just love to save up and have jake build an engine for me. I've came to that conclustion. Hopefully a powercurve similer to that 2316. Although not so high numbers. I don't like the up and downs in the 2270C. and the 2270C is 148HP in the dyno on his site. Which is plunty. Not building a race car here, just geting a feel for my best options.

Now I want to look for a nice cheap get up and go engine for the 'in between' times. Or I'll just stuff the car in the gerage. Do the paint and interior while saving new wireing fueltank, weatherstriping, seals..etc. Then stuff the engine in and tranny and just have a ball