what would the hp be?

[Veedub]

Does anyone on here know what the difference in hp and torque would be in a 90.5x69 (1776) and a 87x74(1760) just wondering.

[EvilAngel]

HP would depend more on your heads, and i guess the stroker would be a bit torquier... just theory no first hand experience

[Veedub]

ok I decided , Im going with a 1641cc with this motor, the other motor I found out it has a w100 cam, c/w crank, heads prob got something, 1.25:1 rockers, and the PO had a progressive on it, but he kept it, so Im goin to run a 34pic on it, since I got one already.The 1641cc with the combo I was told to go with, it will have about 95hp and 120lbs torque, which is what I want.

[Veedub]

this is my motor combo.
It will be the 1641cc, found a better combo that wont kill my wallet as much...
87x69, 044 magnum 40x35.5 heads with cut 55cc chambers,bugpack cam .284 duration and .484" lift w/ 1.25:1 rockers, dual 40mm kadrons, merged 1.5" header w/ hideout muffler, and a full pertonix ignition.

Option #2 heads are 044 Super Magnum cnc round port heads, 40x35.5 valves, cnc porting, dual super rev springs, chromoly retainers, hardened valve locks, and 3 angle valve job - 605.95 per pair.

Any idea what the hp and torque might be?
Im guessing 100-110hp and 130lbs torque

[Veedub]

hey guys, my dads friend was telling me that i can really wake up a stock 1600cc with mild bolt ons, and if I want, add a cam, motor needs rebuild anyway, and it going to be my backup motor and i just want it quicker than stock with enough balls to move out its own way.the motor thats in my car now is what i really want to build since its the one with most hp and torque stock out of the 2.

For the 1600cc I read in a past Hot VW magazine that they added bolt ons onto a 1600cc and it rand 17's, if i added heads and a cam and diff size carberators maybe it would be in the low 16's high 15's possibly?

Anyways depending if the pistons are still good would i want to reuse them or get new ones, same with the connecting rods,flywheel?
id use this kit http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....10%2D5000%2DKT
would stock rods be ok, or i beam or h beams be and improvement, since there in the kit?
what cam followers would i want?
id go for the forged c/w 69mm crank with a W110 or W120 cam with a cam gear.
Then order dual 40 or 44mm kadrons, 1:25:1 rockers,merged header and muffler, and for heads...maybe cb's 044 heads

What you guys think, should i do that for my first motor build up then when its done and in my bug, take the current motor thats in the bug and build it into a bigger bore motor like a 1776cc?

[EvilAngel]

Hi again.
I'd say to use the engine with the least wear for the Hi-po, and the other one should be the mild one. If you're staying 1600, and are ona budget, you can add the w110, stock rockers, and dual kads should be fine. If your pistons, crank and rods are in better then perfect condition, and you don't plan on racing, they should be fairly ok, since you should want to spend your cash on the larger engine. Merged headers are a must, and for a 1600 i'd stay away from 044, and go 043, DRD or steve tims, because of their higher port velocity on a small displacement engine. Lightening the stock flywheel should work too. Oh, and stay away from lube-a-lobes, i've read too many bad things from them
All this is under the assumption that:
1. you are gonna build an engine that's more fun than stock, but are not gonna race it
2. you are on a budget
3. in the near future, you'll be getting a better engine (and would rather spend your cash on it)


As for your second engine, well it all comes to budget and usage.

Cheers

[Veedub]

oops i double posted..