Mythbuster: continuing project thread of my 1303 '75

[Bugscandrift]

Wally, your car is absolutely my inspiration..

[Wally]

Thanks man!

Since installment of the 25,5mm torsion bars I have felt some severe trembling of the wheels when doing a burn-out on a less watered surface.
The extra brace from fork to cage didn't make a difference either, so I concluded it must be my now 20+ year old Bilstein gas shocks not up to the task of controlling my thicker torsion bars.

As Santa Pod is rapidly approaching as well as Time Attack in june, I opted for the shocks that Porsche delivers with the M030 option afaik on the 944T: Koni yellow-Sport shocks. They are a safe bet that they will match the torsion bars, are oil and gas filled and single adjustable.

[volkdent]

You crack me up!!! 400hp and 20yo shocks, you are a nut!

Jason

[Wally]

Originally Posted by volkdent

You crack me up!!! 400hp and 20yo shocks, you are a nut!

Jason

You're right about the nut part anyhow but the 20 year old Bilsteins were still in very good condition, but probably out of their spec range atm.
If it aint broke....right?
Bilstein and Koni are both quality products and usually last a lifetime.

but you may have been right though that it was a little overdue to replace them. I just always have wanted to go to coil-over after these, but am/were still on the fence about what and how. It just could not wait any longer now.

Steve: yes, they are for the aussie-made Whiteline sway bar attachment

Rob: The Bilsteins are not worn or anything, but just could not cope the stiffer sway bar imo. I don;t think you can upgrade the valving on those? Or can you?

The only thing I would have wished is the attachment eyes would have been nicer if they could have been a uni-ball joint top and bottom. Someday I hope someone thinks of a way to put that into these Koni's.

Funny thing was, I ordered these with Paragon products in the US and these Holland-made shocks were cheaper there including transport then that I would have ordered them here...I had a very hard time ordering these over here anyways, so ordering them online was easier and faster after all too.
Gotta love the internet.

[Bruce.]

Bilstein UK used to be able to rebuild shocks. They tested on a dyno, drained the oil, changed all the seal and checked the rod. Re-valving was an option too. However, I don't know if they still offer this service and not all units can be rebuilt.

There is also a customising/motorsport service at Bilstein (de?) and can be contacted via +49 (0) 2333-791-4444

[Steve C]

Hi Wally

I have the same 944 Konis for my bug. Is the steel section around the shock base for a sway bar?

Steve

[judgie]

you could of got the billys rebuilt. konis are a good chocie but i allways try and go with bilstiens, i'm a rally man at hart.

[judgie]

i wouldn't want to run uni-ball on a street car, even more so with the mileage you do. very harsh and they dont last long with the dirt on the roads.
I'm with you on the coil over on the rear, i dont think its a upgrade. only way of doing it imho is the way j-sport have done it on there race car.

[70Turbobug]

i wouldn't want to run uni-ball on a street car, even more so with the mileage you do. very harsh and they dont last long with the dirt on the roads.

I would have to disagree,sorry.If you do a lot of offroading,then eventually the uni-ball will wear out and become sloppy,but it wasn´t designed for such use.I see many cars here that use uni-ball set ups,not just bugs as "daily drivers" with no problems at all.Some like the uni-ball set up from Remmele or MBT and some don´t for various reasons,that´s fine,it´s not everone´s cup of tea.If you never wash your car,then dirt and grime may become an issue eventually,but the uni-ball rod ends are pretty tough - I see it everyday on aircraft where rod ends are used everywhere.

[ricola]

I think the key is to use the rubber boots over the uni-balls with plenty of lube inside them for a street car..

[Wally]

Thanks, Good points! I'll see how it goes with these and let you know
Have a great WE!

[Humble]

Actually, koni does make uniball equipped shocks but they are double adjustable racing spec The 2800 series are the cheap end and pretty damn nice but I don't know what they cost off hand (probably not cheap).

Hopefully the m030 shocks work well for you, when I tried them on my lightened car I found they were too stiff.

[dub_crazee]

Hey Wally,

finally got to see your car up close in the flesh - love it. only saw your first run though! crackin car - it's been an inspiration for me building my own! Shame i didnt get to meet you

Deano

[Wally]

Originally Posted by dub_crazee

Hey Wally,

finally got to see your car up close in the flesh - love it. only saw your first run though! crackin car - it's been an inspiration for me building my own! Shame i didnt get to meet you

Deano

Hi Deano,
Yes, pity indeed. There was plenty of time on sunday, but a very large compound and a lot of people there as well



Tnx for the kudos! It was fun and thats what its all about.

[Fast65]

Wally ran a 11.48 his PB fastest car in DKR at the moment

cheers andy