German Look Ghia - The Basilari 306R

[ricola]

You have fitted the fans on the wrong side of the radiator... if you want to use aero of negative static pressure over the engine lid to pull air through that direction. Fans work more efficiently as a pull design and shrouding like that is supposed to be on the back side to aid fan efficiency. I also can't see yet how you plan to get ducting up to the radiator from underneath.
Love the rest of the build, I just can't see any logic in chasing the rear mounted radiator...

[noslzzp]

Originally Posted by ricola

You have fitted the fans on the wrong side of the radiator... if you want to use aero of negative static pressure over the engine lid to pull air through that direction. Fans work more efficiently as a pull design and shrouding like that is supposed to be on the back side to aid fan efficiency. I also can't see yet how you plan to get ducting up to the radiator from underneath.
Love the rest of the build, I just can't see any logic in chasing the rear mounted radiator...

The goal is to take advantage of the natural higher air pressure from the transaxle side of the radiator. Ducting may or may not be necessary because of this differential although we'll be helping the flow with deflectors. We are not *pulling* air in from the engine lid (the vents of which we may relocate), but rather pushing air out.

To your point though, the fans are on the transaxle side because of space constraints on the engine side (lid hinges). We will be testing this setup thoroughly with manometers, yarn, etc.

If it doesn't work, we can always move up front.

[ricola]

Maybe I wasn't clear, I understand which direction you want air to go, I meant pull air out at the back through your decklid. Your fans will lose efficiency from being 'pushers' but I'm more concerned with you blocking flow with that shroud..

Do you have target date for getting it on the road? Are you doing a test build before stripping it back down for detailing etc etc?

[noslzzp]

Originally Posted by ricola

Maybe I wasn't clear, I understand which direction you want air to go, I meant pull air out at the back through your decklid. Your fans will lose efficiency from being 'pushers' but I'm more concerned with you blocking flow with that shroud..

Do you have target date for getting it on the road? Are you doing a test build before stripping it back down for detailing etc etc?

The car should be rolling by the end of next month. Yes, the aerodynamics will be worked out/tested and solidified before the body work begins.

[noslzzp]

For the German Look community only:

Starter system:




Pedals (not such a big deal):

[70Turbobug]

Awesome project! very nicely done! Are you using the subarugears conversion for the transmission?

[noslzzp]

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug

Awesome project! very nicely done! Are you using the subarugears conversion for the transmission?

Yes - Subaru Gears all the way. Todd installed a Torsen LSD as well. Here's a cleaner, earlier view of the transaxle and custom mount:

[noslzzp]

Chassis on the ground (at Hot VW's Drag Days):
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[volkdent]

How are we coming along?

Jason

[noslzzp]

The project is still underway. I think I made a tactical error by letting Kevin take the chassis to the show. He got too many orders and got too busy to finish my car!!

[coolrydes]

Keith,

I am sorry you feel this way. In everything in life there are two sides to every story. I thought we had been comunicating pretty good on this project. As far as cost at the end of the job, it does get effected when one of our customers helps us out in one way or another. As far as we are conserned, we end up giving more into the job then the customer ends up paying for. I can tell you already that we have given freebee's on this job. Also what Keith has not added to this is that we have had set backs on both his and our part, waiting for parts that either he or we are supplying. So before people get involved only knowning half the story, please find out all the facts.

My .02 cents

[volkdent]

Originally Posted by coolrydes

Keith,

I am sorry you feel this way. In everything in life there are two sides to every story. I thought we had been comunicating pretty good on this project. As far as cost at the end of the job, it does get effected when one of our customers helps us out in one way or another. As far as we are conserned, we end up giving more into the job then the customer ends up paying for. I can tell you already that we have given freebee's on this job. Also what Keith has not added to this is that we have had set backs on both his and our part, waiting for parts that either he or we are supplying. So before people get involved only knowning half the story, please find out all the facts.

My .02 cents

You also run a business, and it's tricky to only have one client so to speak. Most businesses like yours have to make sure that there's another vine to swing to or you find yourself hanging on one vine that will wither with time. Tough spot to be in, communication is usually the key to making things clear for everyone.

That being said, it seems like you really need to give a project of this magnitude and exposure the time it needs to keep momentum if it's possible. If it didn't have so much exposure people wouldn't be talking about it so much and wondering what happened to it, hopefully all the talking will net you some great client leads though.

Looking good still, can't wait to see how this thing turns out.

Jason

[Jadewombat]

Originally Posted by coolrydes

Keith,

I am sorry you feel this way. In everything in life there are two sides to every story. I thought we had been comunicating pretty good on this project. As far as cost at the end of the job, it does get effected when one of our customers helps us out in one way or another. As far as we are conserned, we end up giving more into the job then the customer ends up paying for. I can tell you already that we have given freebee's on this job. Also what Keith has not added to this is that we have had set backs on both his and our part, waiting for parts that either he or we are supplying. So before people get involved only knowning half the story, please find out all the facts.

My .02 cents

I don't quite follow. So you're saying the project SHOULD be delayed? It really doesn't sound like you are doing him any favors at all.

It's your reputation Chief, not his. Please enlighten us on all of the facts or Man-up and just finish the car already.

[noslzzp]

Originally Posted by coolrydes

Keith,

I am sorry you feel this way.

I'm clipping all the stuff below out because it's not constructive for the project moving forward and not related to things I've said. Other folk have their opinions and I don't want to muddy the waters.

As we all know, there are quite a few people following this build and as we discussed over the phone yesterday, I didn't have any status information to feed the wolves. My only "perceived" negative comment (a reply) was that there is some benefit to having my car sit in your shop to be drooled over by potential customers who turn into real customers that go to the front of the line. Period, full stop. Everything else *I* have said has been in complete understanding and support of you first as a fellow entrepreneur and second as a mechanically talented car artist.

At the end of the day I'm just trying to keep the project moving. I've backed a dump truck load of cash into this and I have the second half of the work (not related to your work) yet to start. So the pressure has been building on this side as people find out about the project, offer services, etc.

Yesterday on the phone, we discussed a plan for better communication going forward and a completed project timeline that we both find acceptable. I'm happy that we've come to concrete dates. We had great positive progress from the time the project started until about 2 months ago. We'll be good if we can get back to the previous level of progress. And, from what you told me yesterday that should be very doable as we don't have too much more work to go.

[cookvw]

cut out the bull crap and get this thing done. we all wanna see this thing done and driving. cars dont build themselves. much support/respect from this end and hoping the very best with moving fwd on this amazing project.