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Old October 6th 2010, 06:16
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Pauter big block 3140cc type 4

Hey all.
I would like to know the potential of Pauter’s big block 3140cc type 4 engine in terms of horsepower with the following changes

A lot wilder camshaft, raised compression ratio from 8.25:1 to 10.5:1 or even to 11.5:1, 50’s or even 52's throttle bodies, a good ecu, 100 octane gas and of course dry sump.

Any ideas? Do you think is possible the 300bhp benchmark????
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Old October 7th 2010, 04:16
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i think the pauter motor is a type 1 style engine useing type 4 main bearing sizes. saying that i dont think you can really call it a type 1 engine as you can build one with out useing any vw parts
the power output sounds about right though.
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Old October 7th 2010, 05:45
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No the new motor case is a type 4 all around. Anyway I have contacted Pauter and they told me that this bhp can be achieved but they are worried with the cooling issues
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TSAF,

I haven't been over to their site, but any insight on the price of this type 4 style case..
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Old October 17th 2010, 16:29
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If you are serious Autocraft can easily exceed the 300bhp mark.
You just need around 22k US $ and you are set,,,
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[QUOTE=Jim Hunter;78028]If you are serious Autocraft can easily exceed the 300bhp mark.
You just need around 22k US $ and you are set,,,[/Q

I bought my moldex crank from them. The point is that their engines are not suitable for everyday use. Therefore only pauter can help. I know Remmele has a 3 liter type 4 as well but for some reason he is not responding to any emails.
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It is common that they will not respond at e-mails...Call them they speak English French and German very well 00497221-972224 and 00497221-972225...
As for the cooling it is a issue as with the temps that we have here is good only for "winter driving" !!!
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I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.
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I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.
What Hewland box are you thinking of using? The Mk9 (VW case) and the FD200 are only rated at 150lb.ft torque. The alternative quoted is the FTR that is still only rated at 240lb.ft and I would expect that your Pauter would develop more than that. The other thing is that most of the competition 'boxes have dog clutch engagement that is a noisy pain on the street. You might be better off with a G50 + oil cooling that'll just about handle the torque although it'll need some chassis mods.

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I am seriously thinking of selling my 2.7 type 4 motor and my M3 in order to finance the pauter engine with a hewland gearbox.
That's my type of VW nut!!! You got a dream, we only live once, go after it! I am in the process of selling my STI for funding my next VW project!
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I haven't been over to their site, but any insight on the price of this type 4 style case..
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That's my type of VW nut!!! You got a dream, we only live once, go after it! I am in the process of selling my STI for funding my next VW project!
Only one MAJOR problem to my plans. Here in Greece the financial situation is a mess at the moment, therefore there is no-one buying.
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I talked with Mike from Autocraft but their case is not suitable for type IV application. Therefore the only brand new case on the market comes from Pauter only.
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I would be conserned about cooling also using a Pauter Motor on the street.The Pauter Pro heads are great and the motors are awesome,but not designed for street use.I know Remmele well,and he is hard to get a hold of by phone and email sometimes.If you are interested in a 3 liter or larger from Remmele send me a pm with your name,phone number,email and address and I´ll try to get a hold of him for you.
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Also,I would rather go with a Porsche gearbox if you plan on 300BHP.A Hewland will not hold the torque.Remmele´s 3 liter puts out 350NM,the Pauter won´t be any less either.An early G50 short nose or a late model 915 will work without any problems.You can of course have a bug gearbox built to take that power aswell.
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