14" wheel brake options?

[Mysticle31]

I'm looking into getting a SB. And I'm wanting to convert to discs. I think that say 10 inch rotors would be plunty for a car so light. It' just require more foot power to lock them up on big front stickey tires. I'm curious what my options are for vented (fade is bad) brakes for these cars that will fit under a 14 inch wheel? (if I HAD to as in there's no good 14" wheel options I'd sell my wheels and get bigger ones)

[NO_H2O]

I think CSP has some sloted disc that fit the Ghia type.

[Mysticle31]

CSP? This is for a 72 Superbeetle?

[NO_H2O]

Same rotor different spindle.
CSP is Custom Speed Parts
http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2...kid=6191092846

[Mysticle31]

How do I know how big they are as to weather or not they will fit under my 14inch wheels? Any other brake kit options? Are there any kits that compare (or are better/worce) then the 914 stuff?

[zen]

Originally Posted by Mysticle31

How do I know how big they are as to weather or not they will fit under my 14inch wheels?

call CSP and ask. best way to be sure.

[Mysticle31]

So far, the only vented rotors I've found for SB's are the Porsche 944 ones. Does anybody have any experence on the track/hard street with the aftermarket kits? How much fade is there? I want this thing to STOP.

[Mysticle31]

Also, What is all the talk with not being able to use Porshe 944 brakes becouse you can't alighn the car?!

[NO_H2O]

???????
Who said that?
CSP might have a drilled rotor too. Most of the Ghia/914 brakes are 11 inch rotor. I have them on all 4 on my car. I haven't had it on the track but it will stop like hell.

[NO_H2O]

It's a 1900 lb. car with 11 inch/2 piston per cal. brakes. I don't think you need much more than that unless you are short track or Auto-X racing.

[Mysticle31]

That's a light car. No autoX here but I'm conserned about brake fade on track days (road race) and extra spirited canyon roads. Even with 11 inch brakes. I don't know why one would want to go bigger. Those are plunty big for this size of a car and all you have to do is not push as hard to lock them up with bigger brakes??

[boygenius]

The bigger the brakes are the more brake force can be applied before the wheels lock up.

[Mysticle31]

How is that? I can undersad how that would apply with bigger tires. Say X ammount of braking force, on X amount of tire, on X amount of road and tire temp (and material and size) = lockup.

ea. On my 1977 ford ranchero, I can lock up my brakes. That is exceding maxamum grip of my tires. I just have to puch harder then if I had 15" brakes (4200lb car)

Can someone explain to me why that would not be correct? It seems logical to me..?

[dbcflash]

Okay, the point of better brakes is to NOT lock up the tires under heavy braking. Even teeny tiny drums are easy to lock up with a good stab of the pedal, but that won't get you stopped any faster and it will prevent you from controlling your car. Think of your brakes as a light switch. You can have tiny brakes and flip the light off (lock up the tires) instantly, but if you have a dimmer switch ( big vented brakes ) you can fade that light out to just exactly what you need without turning the light off. As long as the tires are still rolling, you're in control. As soon as they lock-up, you are just along for the ride. Whatever you do to prevent lock-up as long as possible (IE: ABS, Vented discs, multi- pot calipers, Etc.) will keep you in control.