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Cup style brace/ traction bar for Solo-2 (Auto-X)?
Do you guys think i would need a traction bar/cup brace for Auto-X (Solo-2) racing?
If any of you guys dont know what this is, Auto-x starts off with a "drag" style start then moves into a tight and twisty course around cones. Normaly lap times are a minute or less depeding on the track setup. My Beetle is a 74 super, and i have a 1914cc engine in the works, maybe maknig 110-130HP. I will have 7"/16" inch rims on the rear. What do you guys think? Thanks, Jonathan |
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I have heard only good things about the kafer cup stlye brace. I just installed mine on my chassis last night and you can hear the difference in the chassis when you tap on it with a hammer. Before it went "thud..." and with the brace it make "binnnnng..." sound. It just sounds more rigid to me just sitting there on jackstands.
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Thanks... but i need to here from some one who has done Auto-X or used the brace in the same manner.
I do think it would help, but to spend 300 bucks on somthing thats not totaly needed or would not help a lot than i dont see why. I could make one my self (that i most likely will do) but again, spending TIME fabing out up and searching for parts is also an issue. Later Jonathan |
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Maybe if there is enough interest we could get another group buy started for a kafer cup brace. I got a sweet deal on mine.
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BTW, I have a rear swaybar that I was thinking about selling. If you need one let me know.
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Yeah, perhaps there is some strong intrest in another group buy? I know im intersted if i can get one for a good price. BTW how much did you fork over for yours durring that last group buy?
Ha.. funny you mention a sway bar, becuase as of 15 minutes ago i just instaled a 944 unit :P Thanks for the offer though. Later Jonathan |
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I don't have a kafer brace, but I have autocrossed with and without a rear traction bar. I think you need something...i have to be very careful when I launch from start because I have huge sticky tires (225/50/15 Kumho autocross tires) and if I launch too hard, i get serious wheel hop...so I usually try and clutch launch it spinning the clutch instead of the tires.
Eventually I plan on getting a kafer brace, but for now, I just baby it a little off the start. For the most part, a drag race style launch doesn't do you much good in autocross. Watch the really competitive racers and most of them take a slow steady launch. Nick Last edited by Aurumen; April 19th 2004 at 12:18. |
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Me too. I found a 20mm swaybar with shackles and hardware for $30 shipped. I just had to order some swaybar clamps and make the bushing perches on the torsion tube.
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I might be interested if it's cheap enough. What was the ballpark for the group buy last time?
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I made mine and it was easy. Yes for autocross and roadrace it does make a difference. Less understeer, and stiffer rear suspension. also now no wheel hop.
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could you give us some details on what materials to use, dimentions and perhaps where you got your supplies at in order to make our own.
Thanks, Jonathan
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Finally somebody near me! I'm in Castro Valley. Not too close, but it works. Start by measuring between your shock towers in the rear. I beleive it's 32 inches. This will be the length of the horizontal top brace. Next are the two lower diagonal braces. Mine were 13 to 15 inches long. I will measure them, but length of these correspond to where you weld the lower frame horn tabs.
Just had a small earthquake..... Get 6 feet of 9/16" id steel tube stock and 3 right hand thread 3/8" rod ends, also 3 left hand thread 3/8" rod ends, 3 rh 3/8" 24 nuts, 3 lh 3/8 24 nuts and 3 right and 3 left jam nuts for the rod ends. good luck finding the left hand jam nuts! I couldn't. ACE hardware has the best rod ends, Orchard supply also has them. The only tough part is making the brackets for the shocks. Buy some 2" wide 1/8" thick flat bar stock for this. I'll draw up a diagram for welding. Oh yeah.... 2 rear 944 long shock bolts. |
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