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Old November 21st 2003, 22:33
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Kafer cup brace

What is the best way to make my own kafer cup brace, assuming I have access to a welder and tube stock? Should I solid weld the frame horns to the shock towers? How should I use heim joints instead of clevis pins? Tell me your Ideas/errors!
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Old November 22nd 2003, 15:09
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That's also what i wanted to know
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Old November 22nd 2003, 16:54
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yea i would like to know how others have done this as well.
i was going to try and tie the frame horns and shock towers in to the rear legs of roll cage and also the tosion bar houseing.
any one got any pic,s?
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Old November 22nd 2003, 19:41
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how about this one from 55superbeetle

browsed trough them from this link at TheRaceShop forum
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Old November 22nd 2003, 21:35
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Does the CSP kit have a right and left hand thread end joints in the links so you can pre-load the chassis.
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Old November 22nd 2003, 22:14
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Does the CSP kit have a right and left hand thread end joints in the links so you can pre-load the chassis.
Yes it does.

There are some pics I believe in the gallery of a car with full cage with integrated bracing.

You can also see the Cup Brace (CSP only resales them....the producer is another company) in my tech article on the main page. That should give you some ideas on how to fab your own if you want.

Maybe it would be possible to get a group deal with a vendor if multiple members want to get a certain brace....Cup brace or TGFab or another make.


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Old November 22nd 2003, 22:51
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If we can can get a group deal on a chassis brace I'll take one. I like the cup brace.
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Old November 22nd 2003, 23:47
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I'd be interested in buying a Cup brace, I've always wanted one...

BTW, is there a vendor that can hook us up with a five-bar setup? I really like the way it looks and it should stiffen up the chassis a little more...
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Old November 23rd 2003, 01:51
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I've been looking for one (either 5bar käfer cup or tgfab) for months....

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Old November 24th 2003, 07:56
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I made mine from 3/8" tubing, 6mm steel plate, 12x1,25 threaded rod and fork ends that are used on pneumatic cylinders.
The setup looks good and strong, I used the CSP brace as a model:
http://www.csp-shop.de/technik/pdf/eng/17704.pdf
Here is an earlier post of bracing:
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So far 3 people are interested in the Käfer Cup brace.

If we get 5 I will contact some shops to tryto get a good deal for it next week. A 5 bar setup is available.....but it depends from which shop.

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Old November 25th 2003, 10:19
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Don't forget that you have to cut the body slightly ('74 standard) if you are installing it (CSP 3-bar brace) with the body on. With a dremel, you can make the cuts look factory.

Also, make sure you have your axles in and the suspension loaded before you weld the links for the down tube from the shock tower to the frame horns.

You can weld in the frame horn link a couple of different ways but I decided to weld my link to the transmission carrier at the rear of the tranny that bolts to the frame horns. This will give me enough room for the suspension to compress while driving and have the axle not rub on the downtube.

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Old November 25th 2003, 13:53
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Sandeep,

Off topic, but got a Dremel question. What kinda bits or discs do you use to cut metal. I can't seem to find any that are worth a darn. Got any tips?

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Old November 25th 2003, 23:42
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You get the dremel black cutting disks .. 1 1/2" dia, reinforced with fibreglass .. cuts sheetmetal like butter, comes in packs of 10.

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Yup,

those carbon disks or whatever they are called are great.....and pricey.

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