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Old December 17th 2010, 19:40
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..... dorigtt, i think the 'spacer' on the lower tube is a plastic bearing as oposed to the stock grease seal on the top one.
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Old December 20th 2010, 23:39
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Where do you find a plastic bearing like that?

Did you re-dimple the torsion springs or run through rods?
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Old December 21st 2010, 12:09
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Swayaway do similar ones, just a different material, i run torsion bars, but they are highly modified and fully adjustable for corner weighting.
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Old January 4th 2011, 22:29
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Am I imagining things? In that picture, it appears that there is a 'spacer' of sorts on the lower arm, but not the upper. Would this thicker 'spacer' allow greater negative camber because it changes the vertical axis of the spindle assembly? If so, that was sneaky.
I think you are correct as further investigation on the site reveals what looks to be through bars / bolts replacing the front torsion leafs. I can't post the pic but the information is there.

I wonder how the track handling would compare to an A-Arm suspension ... surely the BJ set up with those lower spacers would handle better than a stock beam. You would also be able to fine tune the camber with that set up. Stefan Naumann's car on the site also looks to be using this modification.

I'll have to talk to Lanner about ths .. looks like a simple mod.

I wonder if anyone has any camber / castor curves for the stock BJ suspension

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Old January 5th 2011, 18:03
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Interesting topic indeed. I also have standard beetle, which will have IRS with 944 aluarms, and front maybe red9design coilovers with same rack and pinion kit as the german racer on the link.

He seems to have wery wide wheels, 10x17 at rear and front 8x17. I was thinking to get 7 + 9 x 17 cup wheels, too wide perhaps?

My boxster brake kit will ad offset about 5-6mm at the front.


I have been thinking a lot these suspension modifications, because my sister's husband from scotland has been bragging that how quick his basic/classic 1600cc caterham is.

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Old January 6th 2011, 00:07
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Feeling really good about the BJ front suspension possibilities now. Only way to get the data is to get the car on the road and test it

Seems like Armin Klein likes the BJ front suspension too.

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5607224/...e_Leipzig_2008

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Old January 8th 2011, 16:32
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Here is my beamer baiter on a qualifying lap. My mental data logger says i pull something over 1G on control road tyres, its harder to add lock on this l/h turn as my arm is too heavy with G! . this season i am moving up to race tyres with updates to the setup. here you can see the main weakness of the t/b front suspension with no camber recovery in roll, the rear roll is soft here to keep away from excessive over steer, but is now addressed for this season with softer t/bars and stiffer ARB... i hope... best regards, Spanners.
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Old January 8th 2011, 21:10
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Now that's a great picture !

Do you have some links / specs on your car available ?

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Thanks Sandeep, i WILL get my albums sorted into order and post up a link to it, the car is constantly changing and will always have a development plan. its nothing special spec' wise, and no show car, its raced hard, and has had many fights, even a 1/2 roll, and its still alive!
My mantra with this car is to keep it as original VW as possible, apart from complying with various rules, this makes for quick and easy repairs, one BIG advantage of a beam if you do shunt it, all at affordable £££.. and it annoys the hell out of Porsche drivers. briefly, as in the pic taken in 2006, it had a T1 1835 with about 145 hp, 421 exhaust, 10.8 cr, dry sump, and , wait for it, a Scat CAST crank,... T1 IRS box with all the tricks but a free diff, 100 mm cv's.
the beam uses split torsion bars and is 1" wider than stock, adjusts for corner weighting, 22mm front ARB, 6 pot Tarox front brakes, VERY light, stock bug calipers on the rear, car weighs 710kg wet in aircooled spec.
Its put on some weight now, as the biggest change for this season is the motor, it now has a 2.5 ltr OKRASA wasser boxer, just waiting for a break in the weather really, to get it out for testing..... Best regards, spanners.
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Spanners, would love to see the motor
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Has anyone spent any time perusing these 5 pages?

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewto...?f=51&t=127619
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Old January 12th 2011, 05:24
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Spanners, would love to see the motor
Hi mate, i'll get some pics up shortly, quickly, its a detuned turbo rallycross motor i had back in the mid '80's, the '90' recession got to me, and i went off for 10 years doing beetle cup and karting. so its on interim carbs for a bit to shake down and set up the chassis, before the injection etc goes back on, maybe the turbo, not sure, ive done that....
regards spanners...
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Has anyone spent any time perusing these 5 pages?

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewto...?f=51&t=127619
Wow That was a good read. Some of it was over my head but it applied to my standard wannabe project and my 181 wannabe project. Good stuff. Thanks!
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Old January 13th 2011, 04:56
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Also a fan of the link. Top work
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Old January 14th 2011, 12:30
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What's the opinion about coilovers at the front? Remmele sells them at 980 euros per set and red9design sells them about 400£.

Red9design has two sets for sale, one with 0-2" drop and one with 2-4" drop.
I was thinking to get the later set, maybe.
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