DDD4 pictures

Wally · #1 August 16th 2006, 06:07

Lend somewhere from the site of our 'neighbours' www.german-spirit.com:

http://olivier.lecorre.club.fr/galer.../bitburg06.htm

Most all of them are very good pictures and they had 'german' written all over them, which is outstanding, given its mostly a callook/old-style look meeting.

This is my favorit for many reasons:

Its a Gelb-schwarzem Renner (special limited 1303 edition only in Germany) with a 2,6 ltr type 4 with Riechert horizontal cooling, that was build 25 years ago, has never been apart and still delivers very fast 1/4 mile times. Don't know the exact times tho..

but when you can make a wheelie with a full weight street legal 1303, you have my respect

Oh, I participated also, but not quite that spectacular, but had great fun nonetheless:

Greetings,
Walter

oasis · #2 August 16th 2006, 10:05

Very nice, Walter. The GSR and its American cousin, the Sports Bug, is a favorite at SBO!. They will enjoy the link.

Oh, and I like the other pic, too.

jonas_linder · #3 August 16th 2006, 13:44

what time did you run wally?!

**volkdent** · #4 August 16th 2006, 14:55

That red/burgundy bug is insane. I think those are Moton shocks all around, an option that probably costs about as much as a stock bug!

Jason

Wally · #5 August 16th 2006, 15:38

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Originally Posted by volkdent

That red/burgundy bug is insane.
Jason

You are more right than you think. The whole car is detailed to perfection. I cannot descibe it any other way. It has a very fast 2,9 ltr type 4 out back...

@ Jonas: It was my first ever official 1/4 mile and I managed 16,0

sheer weight, the very mild Web 86, the 11,4 A/F ratio at full throttle and street tires were not helping, but the fun was nonetheless

I did drove 36,8 MPG on the way back home hehe. (with a thursty 12,4 AFR)

Lazarus · #6 August 16th 2006, 16:38

i think the most odd thing is the blue second gen camaro. all i could hear in my head was that song from sesame street "one of these things are not like the other, some of these things are kinda the same"

Panelfantastic · #7 August 16th 2006, 19:31

Yes! Great pics! Thanks for sharing!

Soooo many questions about that burgundy/candy apple bug... but mostly, on the front susp pics, is that some sort of adjustable caster setup?? I'm looking at the pic that shows the rear side of the front susp and there is an adjustable rod tied to the beam and running rearward to the pan. Why would you need to dial in the caster often enough to have an elaborate setup like this?

Thanks for edumacatin' the dummy.

Jeff-

**volkdent** · #8 August 17th 2006, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Panelfantastic

Yes! Great pics! Thanks for sharing!

Soooo many questions about that burgundy/candy apple bug... but mostly, on the front susp pics, is that some sort of adjustable caster setup?? I'm looking at the pic that shows the rear side of the front susp and there is an adjustable rod tied to the beam and running rearward to the pan. Why would you need to dial in the caster often enough to have an elaborate setup like this?

Thanks for edumacatin' the dummy.

Jeff-

Is it possible that what you were looking at was an over-engineered beam brace? They've also got simple clamp on formed tubing versions. EDIT- Uh yeah, that's what it is. It's supposed to keep the beam more rigid. They have MUCH simpler and lighter versions available, but no where NEAR the wow factor.

Jason

Wally · #9 August 17th 2006, 16:37

I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

jonas_linder · #10 August 17th 2006, 16:55

11.6:1 that is rich even in a turbocar under boost

I have no time at all so I should probably just shut up

It sound like you had a great time and that is all that matters!

Panelfantastic · #11 August 17th 2006, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

Ok Wally, lay it on us. "Vat does dis doo?"
I could see wanting to add (or is negative take away?) a little caster for a track with more long straights than short curves, and vice versa for a short track with no straights, but this thing looks a little beyond even that explanation.
Make no mistake, I think the car is freakin' AWESOME! I just wanted to learn about some of the neat engineering. Not denying the guy is a fabrication master.

Jeff-

Wally · #12 August 18th 2006, 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor.

The above does not suggest at all that I know every intimate designing consideration that lead to the descision of making it the way it is

.
I have seen the car in person and spoke with the guy in german for some time about his car.
Torsion bar front ends really do not interest me at all, so that was not my point of interest when we spoke about his car...
The whole car IS pure german-style, believe me at least on that one

Wally · #13 August 18th 2006, 02:19

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Originally Posted by jonas_linder

11.4:1 that is rich even in a turbocar under boost

Yes, thanks for the confirmation; thats why I really need some programming and drive time to further adjust the fuel map. I forsee a 15,.. next time with this engine

I strive for 12,5-12,8 for max power, but only the dyno (next week) will tell.

**volkdent** · #14 August 18th 2006, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

Well, that car isn't so clean you could eat off it just to make it go faster! That's the wow factor. An adustable beam brace could be made up with a far less complicated contraption, but form does follow function and it actually looks better than it contributes to the increase in performance of the car, so I'd say that falls squarely in the "wow" catagory! And a good job he's done of it too, it's really beautiful. And yes, GermanLook is about function AND FORM, so he's pretty much got it covered in both departments.:agree:

jonas_linder · #15 August 18th 2006, 19:19

For max power you should shoot for 13.6:1

On gas anyway!

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