944 Everything? + History

[Mysticle31]

So the 944's Suspension is baised off the Superbeetles. Can I use the 944 Control arms on a super beetle? What about the front struts? (I've read many things saying yes with mods on the front sturts. What does it take?)

Sence the 944 is 50/50. Can or should I add weight to the front of the superbeetle? Would that improve things? It'd be as if, suspension wise I''d have a REALLY! light 944. (Although the sprung to unsprung weight would be HORRID!)?

It simply blows my mind how the Porshe 911 handles soo well, (as does the 944) but All you hear about is the 911 and it's weight dist isnt' very good!

[Supa Ninja]

I beleive adding weight is not the answer to make a super handle better. Relocate the battery into the trunk area, keep the spare, concentrate on the weight reduction on the rear as much as possible (I'll be keeping the stock steel fenders in front, and the stock german steel front hood, as well as a steel front bumper, and run carbon or f/g in the rear, as well as the rear three windows lexan). If 50/50 weight biasing is not attainable proper spring rates front:rear will help. From what I've read it's a little hoaky to use the 944 strut, plus the spring rate is way too stiff for the front of a super, Maxx or Kersher is the ticket. You keep ignoring one of Porsche's greatest handling cars of all time, the 914. I think it was Nurdingberg(?) 1970 three 914-6's competed and 2 finished first and second in their class and one finished 3 overall, don't quote me on that.
Believe me when I say a properly setup 1302/1303 will stick to the road like none other and a little rear bias is always fun when you want to have fun and induce some oversteer. I've seen stars from pulling G's in my 1302, and I can't wait till I have a healthier power plant so that I can use some more of the chassis's capabilities.

Nick

[boygenius]

Originally Posted by Mysticle31

It simply blows my mind how the Porshe 911 handles soo well, (as does the 944) but All you hear about is the 911 and it's weight dist isnt' very good!

The rear weight bias is an advantage in the hands of a skilled driver.

[Mysticle31]

I've prety much goten the idea that for a kickbutt handing car, you should use Porshe Parts. So what parts from what Porsches can I use?

Some of them came with upgraded suspension components stock. (IE S, S2, Turbo, and 968) And I don't mind having every single piece of the suspension come from a different car as long as they work together.

[boygenius]

Here is a pic of my 944 rear end.

944 late aluminum trailing arms.
944 spring plates and torsion covers.
944 torsion bars.
944 sway bar with custom mounts.
Käfer cup brace.
Shock tower braces.
Relocated bumb stops.
Modified VW shocks.

What you want to use from the 944 are the (front) spindles out and (rear) trailing arms out, this is all. [out = to the brakes/wheels]

[Mysticle31]

so why do people use 30MM torson bars (aftermarket) Srping plates (from other Porsches even), Torsion covers..etc..

What is a spring plate? What does it even do?

Some people have even questioned the use of 944 arms. Can you put bigger torson bars in the stock beetle arms? What is the benifit of having 944 arms?