GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > General > Off Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 9th 2010, 09:38
judgie's Avatar
judgie judgie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: northants uk
Posts: 355
1303 rally car

went to see a good mate yesterday and found this in his workshop.
beleaved to be a genuine works car and being rebuilt to do the british historic rally championship.
Engine is a 1600 t1 with a works style dry sump set up, a cam but he wouldn't tell me which one, reworked heads with 40x32 valves, positive deck hieght pistons and topped of by a ubber rare set of 46 ida's. should make around 125 bhp@6000rpm
shell has been restored and built up to orignal spec in the fia homolagation papers so has a 914 gearbox with close ratios and a lsd. the shocks are bilstien.
some pic's below of the car and engine.








__________________
my race car build galleryhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/1406263...7602662665607/
my web site www.rnjmotorsport.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 9th 2010, 09:40
judgie's Avatar
judgie judgie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: northants uk
Posts: 355








car should be finished and ready for shake down later this year.
__________________
my race car build galleryhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/1406263...7602662665607/
my web site www.rnjmotorsport.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 9th 2010, 11:13
volkdent's Avatar
volkdent volkdent is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Santa Rosa, CA, USA
Posts: 1,684
Very cool, thanks for posting. I didn't realize that VW had a dry sump setup!

Jason
__________________
If I could just get paid for my sleepless nights....
1960 VW Bug UBRDUB
Walkaround
1st Drag Run

Dyno Run
Oval Ragster-'57 Rag/'04 Boxster S
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 9th 2010, 13:11
chug_A_bug's Avatar
chug_A_bug chug_A_bug is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Canada, Ontario, Stoney Creek
Posts: 1,178
that's Crazy... that Vw has a dry sump way back then GOOD JOB
thanks for posting that, and try to keep us up dated on it
Chris.
__________________
74 Std. GL
74 fat chick (rally car Project)
90 Audi Coupe Quattro
02 Ford Ranger 4L 2wd
08 Vw rabbit
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 9th 2010, 16:45
judgie's Avatar
judgie judgie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: northants uk
Posts: 355
porsche austria had the dry sump pump from 72 onwards i think, only way to make a engine live in motorsport.
cant wait to see it used in action.
__________________
my race car build galleryhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/1406263...7602662665607/
my web site www.rnjmotorsport.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 9th 2010, 18:05
Pablo Pablo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 103
Fabulous
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 9th 2010, 18:51
Mykul's Avatar
Mykul Mykul is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Apache Junction, AZ
Posts: 14
Very cool, is an understatement!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 9th 2010, 19:26
NO_H2O's Avatar
NO_H2O NO_H2O is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Stockbridge, GA.
Posts: 2,810
Very cool. Would love to see some video of that when it hits the road.
__________________
NO_H2O
72 1302 Smack Black GL
73 Bus (2L CIS Powered)
66 Beetle, 73 Standard Beetle
72 Pinzgauer 710M
Volksport Kafer Gruppe
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 10th 2010, 09:29
DORIGTT's Avatar
DORIGTT DORIGTT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southfield, MI
Posts: 630
Here is a site that has a decent amount of information on what went into building the rally cars.
http://www.rallybugs.com/

And the FIA homologation papers...
http://www.rallybugs.com/fiahomol.htm
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 10th 2010, 10:21
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,666
Hi

There is video on Youtube featuring the Salzburg Rallye Beetles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac96n...eature=related

If you can put up with corny music about 1/2 way through there is some in car footage that has great sound.

I had set of 46 IDAs on my old WBX bug, they were beautiful carbs.

Steve
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old June 10th 2010, 20:14
chug_A_bug's Avatar
chug_A_bug chug_A_bug is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Canada, Ontario, Stoney Creek
Posts: 1,178
I love it... makes me want to build a rally car Sooo bad

Chris.
__________________
74 Std. GL
74 fat chick (rally car Project)
90 Audi Coupe Quattro
02 Ford Ranger 4L 2wd
08 Vw rabbit
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old June 10th 2010, 20:24
owdlvr's Avatar
owdlvr owdlvr is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canada - West Coast
Posts: 724
Love this thread, and these cars...

Can't wait to see more of this restoration!

Also worth checking out is Mark Huebbe's modern-day tribute to the Salzberg car's. Mark's car is a '70 standard, modified to be legal for Group 2/F in Rally America class. http://www.321govideo.com/rallybug/

-Dave
__________________
--
'71 Type 1 - Rally Project
'58 Type 1 - I bought an early...
'75 Type 1 - Family Heirloom
'93 Chevy 3500 pickup - Cummins Swap
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old September 6th 2010, 13:32
Beetleman Beetleman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lincoln,England
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by judgie View Post
porsche austria had the dry sump pump from 72 onwards i think, only way to make a engine live in motorsport.
cant wait to see it used in action.
There is also a dry sumped 1302S (ex rally car as well I believe) that competes in the Beetle Challenge. It lives in Lincolnshire
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old August 30th 2011, 13:58
TSAF's Avatar
TSAF TSAF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Athens - GREECE
Posts: 203
VW winner in EM-rally !!!

The 1302 S beetles were in EM-historic rally Lahti ( Finland). Juhani Laaksonen showed the European guys, how the IDA:s sing...
He won the class and finished as 6th of total 85 started!!! He was also at total 4th place before last stage, but loose some time and dropped onto 6th. On a one specialstage he started 1minute after Porsche 911 and passed it before the finish-line. He catched the 911 and then tried to pass, but there came so much stones from 911 wheels that he broke both frontlams etc, but he had "Finnish SISU" so he pushed hard and just passed it and left the poor 911 behind...

The other 1302 S, the ex WRC-driver Marcus Grönholms fathers (Ulf Grönholm) old beetle was driven by Juha Liukkonen. Juha has long experience on internaional historic-circuitraces with Ford Falcon etc cars. He drove summerrally for the first time ever and got better all the time. Same stages, where Juhani took 3-5th places, Juha got round 14th comparing total 85cars. On the last stage Juha drove out of the road, but luckily got back and continued with strongly moved steeringparts + moved compensator + broken intakemanifold. And managed to drive 165 km after specialstage to Finnishline also.

So both 1302 S beetles finished the race and Juhani were asked to specialchecking after the race, but there was nothing against the rules so he got his award as classes 1st and total 6th!!!

Only cars, which could beat Juhanis VW-times were Lancia with compressor 340hp (ex markku Alen) driven now by Norwegian, Opel Ascona 400 240hp, Porsche 911 270hp, To#¤ta Corolla GT twincam 220hp.


This shows again how good and reliable and competetive aircooled VW:s are. There were many 911, Ford etc which had technical problems. The distances between the specialstages were long, friday and saturdays first driving were 160km only to catch the first specialstage with racecars. Weather was good, shiny and +26-28C all the time!

Sure there is picts and video somewhere in the internet from LAHTI EM-historicrally 2011 of Juhanis orange 1302 and Juhas Green 1302.

Congratulations Juhani and Juha!!!


Team-Kuplapaja Cheesy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHd1Z...layer_embedded

Jussi

http://cal-look.no
__________________
VW 1303s 1975 (German Look)
VW 1300 1964 (Rally Car)
LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90 V8
BMW E30 318i CONVERTIBLE 1992
Italian Toys - GERMAN WAR MACHINES
WRC is for boys - GROUP B WAS FOR MEN
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 21:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved