Wishbone suspension bolt on kit - Page 10

**volkdent** · #**136** May 13th 2005, 15:42

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Originally Posted by tom'72

Maybe this was mentioned previously but shouldn't you get a patent on that design to protect all your work and the investment?

Some things just aren't worth patenting. I'm currently working on some non-VW things that will get patented, but the minimum amount is $1000 to patent something. This isn't a new idea, well maybe the bolt on part is, but the general idea is not, and if ANYONE wants to go ahead and build one themselves, they can be my guest. It is complicated enough that not just anyone can build this. Even the other setup that was mention from Eyeball Engineering I believe would require splitting the pan and body. Mine is bolt on with removal of minimum metal, not easily duplicated.

This is a very intensive process and I'm not even sure if I'll like the results yet. I know that it will look cool, but I didn't build it just to look cool, it has to perform amazingly as well. This thing might suck for all its cool looks. I doubt it, but it could! That's why I want to give this thing some serious road time before and a redesign for simplicity before sales come into the picture. The nice thing about ACVW's is that there not new and they never seem to go out of style, so some patience will pay off for those who care to wait.

When the final design is complete, I won't be so showy with it, no 3D models and all that. You could buy one and copy it, but I think someone with some computer smarts could get the plates cut from the 3D model I've offered for current viewing. The trouble is, its still a very costly road to go down. A smart person would just wait till its perfected then shell out the dough.

Jason

Shadowbug · #**137** May 16th 2005, 00:16

Now if I could only get one for my bus.

**volkdent** · #**138** May 21st 2005, 13:20

Progress has slowed a little bit. One reason is some machining delays, another is a design change. The final design called for new bungs to be machined to replace the eccentrics in the spindles. This proved to be expensive and completely eliminates any castor adjustment. While the designer insists that the castor adjustment is not necessary, with everyone tending to have differerent rakes to their cars, I think it's important, as well as not everything in life is perfect, so adjustability is important.

So, a little change of design delay, then, with new A arm design in hand, Walt should be able to get the arms done in a couple of weeks.

Jason

**volkdent** · #**139** June 5th 2005, 13:44

Tacked up suspension went in. Turned out it was about 8mm too long front to back, so it has to be shortened. Also, the upper back A-arm pivot was moved forwad 30mm. In the original position, quite I bit of body would have to be removed from the inner fender well. At 30mm forward, the arm should clear the body. There will still have to be a small notch removed from the inner fender well for the tie rod, but it should be much smaller than wheat was needed for the arm clearance. The center section of the suspension JUST goes in with mm to spare, but it fits and bolts up great.

Jason

DORIGTT · #**140** June 5th 2005, 15:43

That's all well and good but I think we need to make sure it fits in my Ghia so that we're sure that all the T-1 cars will be able to use this suspension set-up

So let me know when it's been fully welded and I'll arrange for the shipping o.k.?

All kidding aside...It's good to see you still making progress. Have you thought about a test procedure to evaluate the change in handling/ride/cornering capability etc?

rip · #**141** June 5th 2005, 16:37

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Originally Posted by volkdent

Tacked up suspension went in. Turned out it was about 8mm too long front to back, so it has to be shortened. Also, the upper back A-arm pivot was moved forwad 30mm. In the original position, quite I bit of body would have to be removed from the inner fender well. At 30mm forward, the arm should clear the body. There will still have to be a small notch removed from the inner fender well for the tie rod, but it should be much smaller than wheat was needed for the arm clearance. The center section of the suspension JUST goes in with mm to spare, but it fits and bolts up great.

Jason

got any pics of it mounted in? seems like it's progressing nicely, btw are you a ME student?

rip

**volkdent** · #**142** June 6th 2005, 00:31

I've never looked at a Ghia, but suspect it will fit no problem. I believe that all the frame mounting points are the same as a type one, then as the wheelwell opens towards the back, Ghias are wider and the pans more square instead of tapered.

No, I'm not a mechanical enginerd, I'm a dentist, a tooth engineer. I had the design done by someone who's built a lot of road race and off-road racing suspensions, so that's where the engineering enters the picture. As well, I have a pretty good sense of force distribution, but I would always overbuild, I don't know the limits on things.

Jason

**volkdent** · #**143** June 6th 2005, 23:42

Still making small tweaks. Just eyeballed the axle centering on the wheelwell, and it looks like it could be too far back just a smidge. So, the 8mm that the center section was too long will probably come off the front plate and more the whole works forward by 8-10mm. Poor Walt already had the jigs made up for the arms, so he'll have to make those changes and my wallet just got a little bit lighter.

Jason

**volkdent** · #**144** June 15th 2005, 20:19

Back on the road again. The 10mm is coming off of the front plate so the whole works will be sliding forward 10mm. Walt will start working on it again tomorrow. I'm gone to Canada for the weekend and when I get back he might have something ready for me.

Jason

**volkdent** · #**145** June 23rd 2005, 00:46

Walt says it's done, so it looks like I might be bolting it up this weekend! I can't wait! I'll get some pics.

Jason

Troy_Audio · #**146** June 23rd 2005, 10:59

Yeah new pix!!
sweet let us know how ot gose..
peace Troy

**volkdent** · #**147** June 27th 2005, 15:26

I did promise pics. Whadya think?

It's just tacked up right now, and I have to have a new shock tower made, because for some reason, I have only 30mm of travel up from ride height, but I have 150mm total travel. So the new shock tower will move the shock up.

More here:

http://www.geocities.com/volkdent/Fr...ssemblyPartial

**volkdent** · #**148** June 27th 2005, 15:30

Finally figured out how to get pics on here!

rustbucket · #**149** June 27th 2005, 15:46

Very, Very nice.

Troy_Audio · #**150** June 27th 2005, 16:35

Sweet!! :haveadrin
You'v really put lots of work into this
Looks sweets as hell Would love to have asetup like that..
Peace Troy
Now To Fixup the rear :righton:

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