4 lug to 5 lug

[Veedub]

I was thinking of having my drums redrilled for 5-205 or 5-112 but wsa told I wouldnt have any room on my drums to do so, and to get the drums that already come in that pattern, what moddifications are required to do so, Im just hoping I can just put the 5 lug drums on w/o changing anything major.5-112's have a good aftermarket in wheels and the 5-205, i just would want the Radar rims , would addapters be ok ?

[oasis]

Originally Posted by Veedub

I was thinking of having my drums redrilled for 5-205 or 5-112 but wsa told I wouldnt have any room on my drums to do so, and to get the drums that already come in that pattern, what moddifications are required to do so

I would think drums in a 5x205 pattern would be available in the aftermarket ... but having never looked for them, I can't be all that sure.

The 5x112 pattern looks like a modern pattern (VW Passat amongst others) to me. If I am right, you would probably need blank drums custom studded.

One word of caution with modern bolt patterns: Make sure the hub size of the drum is compatible with the hub hole of the wheels you want. I had to make concessions with my front wheels when I chose a modern pattern for my disks.

Originally Posted by Veedub

would addapters be ok ?

The best quality adaptors will likely add to the amount of track you have on the front and on the back. Since you seemed concerned about modifications in your post, this could lead to some especially if you chose a wide wheel as well. These adaptors won't be cheap either. Even then, there will be those who will strongly recommend against it -- some in general, others in a racing application.

I am sure others with more experience will chime in.

[Veedub]

Well the rims I really like, reason I am interested in whats needed is I want 15inch Randars.THere 15x5's and they have a 3.5" backspace.The addapters I found were 1/2" thick and cost 55.00 a pair. I would more like to have the 5-205 drums, an there is a aftermarket with them but not sure if I can use my bearings and backing plate with them. I was told to get wide 5 drums for front, and rear brakes from a Type 3 or Thing.

Heres a link to the wheels
http://www2.cip1.com/PhotoGallery.as...7;2DC10%2D6657

[oasis]

Man, those adaptors are either a very good price or less than desirable quality. I would be concerned. I would investigate the backing plate and whatever else might be at issue before I would consider the adaptor route. If you go with adaptors, I would be more concerned with quality of manufacture than just its thickness. That is one area not to be frugal. My opinion only.

[Veedub]

Originally Posted by oasis

Man, those adaptors are either a very good price or less than desirable quality. I would be concerned. I would investigate the backing plate and whatever else might be at issue before I would consider the adaptor route. If you go with adaptors, I would be more concerned with quality of manufacture than just its thickness. That is one area not to be frugal. My opinion only.

Im not sure about them either, the EMPI badge scares me
Any ideas of anyone else that may carry them, but a good quality, possibly?

[oasis]

They would be custom made to your order.

Highly recommended are:

http://www.motorsport-tech.com/index2.htm

and

http://www.wheeladapter.com/

My personal experience is with the latter of the two.

[Veedub]

Im thinking of going with the addapters, reason being, if I want to ever go back to the stock size I can.Plus Im looking at the 5-112 pattern and under the 2006 Jetta, theres some nice wheels.Thing is, lets say the addapter is 1/2" thick, what ET rim would I want to look for?Would I want a 15x6.5 in a 40-55et or a 30-40mm et?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...6&autoModClar=

[oasis]

If you are interested in '06 Jetta wheels, you should find out what their offsets are. It is easier to work out these problems if you can reduce the variables into being constants.

[Veedub]

I looked on VWVortex, an the guys over there say the MKIV Jetta has a 35mm-38mm offset.

[Veedub]

i might end up just buying the 4 lug 4-100 drums from cip1 being there 79.95 each, compared to 55.00 addapters.then buy the konig rewinds since there more the style i like.There 15x7's and are 99.95 from this one place in ohio, then buy 8mm spacers for the ones with a 40et, but then i like the rwd version better, only problem with those, is they got 0 backspace, anyone know what to do about that issue,besides really wide fenders lol

[oasis]

Originally Posted by Veedub

I looked on VWVortex, an the guys over there say the MKIV Jetta has a 35mm-38mm offset.

My wheels came off of a Wolfsburg Edition Jetta (c. 2000), and it is a 42mm offset. They are also a 5x100 bolt pattern. I cannot vouch for any other wheel offered. I might be able to look up the steelie as I have one locked away, and the spare doughnut (although the latter might be of little use). Four millimeters is a tiny difference anyway -- between 1/6th and 1/7th of an inch.

Originally Posted by Veedub

... but then i like the rwd version better, only problem with those, is they got 0 backspace, anyone know what to do about that issue,besides really wide fenders lol

Forty millimeters is over an inch and a half. Wide fenders and abandoning the idea are the two best options in my opinion.

[Veedub]

OK I emailed the company about 2 wheels an I can get the FWD Konig Rewinds in FWD in the color i like which is silver with a polished lip, the color I showed you.They have a +40mm offset, and also weigh 13lbs.
Then I asked about these
http://buywheelstoday.com/products/?id=3835
They have a +38mm offset and come solid silver, when I decide which ever one I want, Id get these 15x6.5 with +38mm offset up front, and 15x8 with 0 offset in rear with wider fenders in rear.....the others I dont thnk Id need wider fenders.
Also Im going to just use drums so the wheels dont stick out more, and for front run a adjustable beam and tryy to avoid a drop spindle. hopefully this will work....Im more less just researching to see if these options will work.

[Shadowbug]

you can buy blank drums and habve them drilled.

[Veedub]

Originally Posted by Shadowbug

you can buy blank drums and habve them drilled.

Or I can just buy the 4-100 bolt patterned drums all ready drilled there the same price.
Anyone know how wide of a fender I would need for a 15x8" rim with a 0et?

[oasis]

Originally Posted by Veedub

Anyone know how wide of a fender I would need for a 15x8" rim with a 0et?

Yowza !

Here is a quote from Creative Car Craft:

Use with up to 9" tire tread on 8" wheels with min. backside spacing of 3.5"

An offset of 0mm on an 8-inch wheel is the same as 4-inch back spacing. That means you are pushing that wheel an extra half-inch to the outside.

These cats are the only ones I know who make fenders wider than three extra inches over stock (4½ inches).

You may want to consult with CCC about your plans and the stats they state on their site.