GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > Technical Section > Suspension

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 27th 2008, 21:48
Sandeep's Avatar
Sandeep Sandeep is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
QA1 rear coilovers for IRS steel arms

I just ran across this thread.

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=25272

Looks promising .... hoping to find a rear coilover to use with relaxed stock springplates and stock steel arms.

Sandeep
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 28th 2008, 11:47
DORIGTT's Avatar
DORIGTT DORIGTT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Forest Grove, Oregon
Posts: 697
Now find a 'local' solution for the front and we're cooking!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 28th 2008, 14:14
Simon Simon is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 65
I'd suggest to get the ones from Gerd Weiser.
They are Bilstein dampers with a main and tender spring from Eibach (ERS), IMHO basically the best shocks and springs you can get (for a reasonable price).

A picture of them:
http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/55665.jpg

And PeteVW uses them, but he can't turn them down all the way since he is using 944 Aluminium trailing arms
http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/sho...0677#post60677


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandeep View Post
hoping to find a rear coilover to use with relaxed stock springplates and stock steel arms.
What do you mean with relaxed springplates?
You want to keep the torsion bars?

I've heard from at least 2 people that they didn't like the combination of torsion bars with a regular spring.
As far as I can remeber this was with KW rear coilovers at 924's.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 28th 2008, 14:48
Sandeep's Avatar
Sandeep Sandeep is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
Thanks.

Yes, I want to keep the torsion bars ... but only to solidify the springplates so they don't deform while driving.

I need to keep the stock steel trailing arms due to my brake system and wheel offset / fender combo.

I don't need to adjust toe in (with 935 style spring plates) ... too much cost for limited functionality. Once the toe is set, you don't need to change it again.

I'd prefer to source things out of North America because the $ to Euro/Pound ratio is not in my favor, even though the products out of Europe are amazing.

Sandeep
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 28th 2008, 17:12
typ4boy's Avatar
typ4boy typ4boy is offline
VW consumer products reseller and researcher
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: england
Posts: 246
you need one of these...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 29th 2008, 04:40
666bug's Avatar
666bug 666bug is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 23
where to buy

Hey Guys,

just looking over this forum and where do I buy the coil over shocks from and how much do they run and the spring plate replacement any info will be fantastic.

thanks guys
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 29th 2008, 08:15
Simon Simon is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandeep View Post
I'd prefer to source things out of North America because the $ to Euro/Pound ratio is not in my favor, even though the products out of Europe are amazing.
The springs used on the GWD coilover can be ordered at Eibach USA and I guess if you call Bilstein USA they can supply you with some coilover dampers.

I guess 935 style springplates are the best solution.
There are cheaper versions available, mainly from sandrail/buggy companies, like here:
http://www.eagleperformance.com/CoilOverKits.html
http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/...gyreararms.htm

Alternatively both Tafel and GWD sell a torsion bar cover with some sort of bearing in it, which allows for removal of the torsion bars.

http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/57115.jpg

http://www.gwd-weiser.de/aktuell/ang...tabdeckel.html

Last edited by Simon; June 29th 2008 at 08:17.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 29th 2008, 18:38
moonska moonska is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Warwickshire, England
Posts: 16
[QUOTE=$aint;66079]I'd suggest to get the ones from Gerd Weiser.
They are Bilstein dampers with a main and tender spring from Eibach (ERS), IMHO basically the best shocks and springs you can get (for a reasonable price).

A picture of them:
http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/55665.jpg

And PeteVW uses them, but he can't turn them down all the way since he is using 944 Aluminium trailing arms
http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/sho...0677#post60677]

Awesome. Do you have to contact GWD direct to purchase the coilover set? Do they ship worldwide?
Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 30th 2008, 06:35
Simon Simon is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonska View Post
Awesome. Do you have to contact GWD direct to purchase the coilover set? Do they ship worldwide?
Cheers
Their webshop doesn't work yet, so you'd have to call or e-mail him.
And he'd be more than happy to ship it anywhere you want
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 30th 2008, 07:55
666bug's Avatar
666bug 666bug is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 23
Talking

Hey Guys,

do you have his e-mail address as the site is in German and I realy want the coil overs

thanks
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old July 6th 2008, 21:06
cavemankustumz cavemankustumz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: paducah kentucky usa
Posts: 35
if you want th qa1 set up jegs has them very resonable prices also
where did the uniball spring plate come from
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old July 7th 2008, 04:19
petevw's Avatar
petevw petevw is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: toronto, ontario, canada
Posts: 1,348
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonska View Post

And PeteVW uses them, but he can't turn them down all the way since he is using 944 Aluminium trailing arms
http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/sho...0677#post60677]
I made some spacers to clear the arms and properly fasten the shocks. The way it was, the bolt was right up against the bottom bearing mount. Seizing it all up, and interfering with the arm.

I hope to have a motor in it soon. Wonder how it will sit with some weight.
__________________
'72 super
'65 bus
'52 split
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old July 7th 2008, 10:32
Sandeep's Avatar
Sandeep Sandeep is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
Thanks for the information.

I'll look at my options and post back the outcome here.

Sandeep
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old July 7th 2008, 12:19
Bug@5speed(US)'s Avatar
Bug@5speed(US) Bug@5speed(US) is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 513
Sandeep,

Here is another fellow, who gave me the idea to use the same QA-1 coilovers, not sure you have seen his post on Rennlist.

Very similiar, but gives more detail in some areas, that may not be apparent on the first link. He did not have a good way to attach the top of the coilover.

Here is the link: http://members.rennlist.com/dan10101...vers%20-2-.htm

Enjoy, hope its useful to you.
VR
ALex
__________________
Alex Olaverri
Sales Associate for Bug@5-Speed (US)
Email: Bugat5speed@yahoo.com
Tele: 973 204-5463
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old February 24th 2010, 23:37
Sandeep's Avatar
Sandeep Sandeep is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
I've got the QA1's to fit upside down by drilling a new lower cup mounting hole, higher than the original hole. Make sure you check that the shock does not bottom out before you drill.

I'm now using the DDR4855P model, but still deciding on the spring rate before ordering the springs.





Still need to pick up the correct length lower mounting bolts.

Sandeep

Last edited by Sandeep; February 24th 2010 at 23:44.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:32.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved