Subaru motor, yet another thread.

[kakarottt]

I am definately putting a subaru motor in my bug now. my 2110 siezed up with under 1,000 miles on it.. actually i am almost certain it is under 500 miles.

I want to part out what i can from that motor and hopefully be able to afford the swap to a subaru with it..

so my budget is right around 1500. + maybe 500 from other things i am selling on ebay at the moment. I dont have a job thanks to my motor siezing =(

so. 2000 is my absolute budget.

I want to get a subaru motor from the junk yard, what should i look for?
i dont know what motors are what, but i was thinking the 2.0 or 2.2 turbo?
cost is also an issue.. i'll go for the non turbo if the difference in price would keep me from completing the conversion.

I have a 71 super beetle with stock tranny. but i will over to some other tranny when funds are available.

my fabrication skills are limited. I can cut the metal and create the ducting for the radiator no problem.

I may try running the hoses for the radiator through the heater channels because i wont be using them. i will cut the ends of them out and simply duct the hosing through them.

I will also want to use some heatercores for heating since this will be a daily driver and it is cold durring the winter. I havent decided weather to maybe put them in the back behind the rear seat or up front behind the dash. But i haven't seen it done before.. everyone seems to just loop that off.

as for the exhaust i have no idea.. I can bend the pipes and possibly have them welded somewhere.. though i want to keep it quiet.. It would be quite a feat to have a bug thats no louder than every other car on the road.

I will be starting in a couple weeks when winter break starts. thats if i can get my motor sold.

There are so many wires and hoses on these subaru motors!!

also i noticed that things like the power steering pump can be removed.. what else? I might just leave the A/C connected for summertime since i know of a beetle that has everything but the compressor.

if you havent figured it out yet, i really dont know what im talking about

correct me :agree:

[LOAF]

if your looking for scooby stuff..

nasioc.com
rs25.com
clubwrx
wrxfantactics
i-club

all good sites..

Lot of good folks there.. as well as your 10% of knuckleheads..

Could give you a good start..

The more and more I hear about scooby's in a VW the more I want to transplant my motor from my wrx and get an upgrade..

ALex

[GS guy]

I think it's a tall order to do the swap for $2K or under. Maybe if you start with an older 2.2L for $500-ish? The Kennedy kit with clutch will run another $700+. Forget the turbo or high HP stuff. Careful shopping will be the order of the day...
Jeff

[kakarottt]

As it stands, i have a siezed 2110..
I can sell it whole for maybe 1500 or part it out and possibly get more.
this is what it has:
90.5mm forged piston & cylinder kit
4340 chromoly gland nut and heavy-duty washer
82mm 4340 chromoly forged billet counterweighted crankshaft
forged I-beam rods
Scat C-45 (W125) performance grind camshaft with gear
lightweight performance lifters
heavy-duty chromoly pushrods
Hi-performance engine gasket set
heavy-duty oil pump
heavy-duty main, rod and cam bearing sets
Heavily Ported Heads
44mm intake and 37mm exhaust valves
High Rev Dual Valve springs
EMPI 1.25 Forged ratio rockers
8.9:1 C/R
Dual Weber 44 idf's
1 5/8 inch headers
Dual BugPack Quiet Pack mufflers
Compufire DIS *distributorless* ignition system 60,000 volt coilpack
Kennedy stage I clutch/pressure plate (slips, but helps keep me from breaking the stock tranny
Deep oil sump

Do you think it is worth the 1500 i am asking?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=243767

i took this info from 73notch's site

Engine . 500
MegaSquirt . 225
Relayboard . 100
Edis . 20
Adapter plate . 450
Clutch and PP . 120
Plumbing 21(pipe)+20(hose)+9(clamps) 50
Radiator griffen . 180
Walbro external inline fuel pump . 115
Fuel filter . 5
Fuel line and hose . 20
Exhaust 21(ubend)+14(4ft)+5(flange) 40
Universal vw throttle cable . 6
Aluminum radiator shroud 6ft(aluminum flashing@OSH) 9

So non turbo might run me around 1,850 using his costs as a guideline.
i know mine could possibly be more or less, but it also gives me 150 dollar margin and i might just find a job if im lucky ^_^

I dont know what a MegaSquirt, RelayBoard, or Edis are.

[Rob]

Get a complete (running) sube for your swap.

First of all, you will know it runs, and won't find out the motor is hosed once you've spend a ton off $$ and a ton of time on it.
Second, you will have all the hoses, wiring, sensors and all do-hickeys you need for the conversion and would have killed your budget if you had to buy them all afterwards.

Put the rad up front.
Not sure about cutting the heaterchannels, aren't these a structural part of the bug ?

Turbo is nice, but it is also more complex and will break your tranny faster.

If you are not getting a complete car, grab as much crap off the donor car as possible. DON'T CUT ANY WIRES.

You might want to take a look here :
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...nagon/messages

In the 'files' section they have a list of 'things to take from the donor'.

Rob.

[73notch]

you forgot to read my disclaimer at the bottom of my price list.

1500 seems high for a seized motor,
id save up 4000 before doing the subaru swap.