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Old April 28th 2008, 23:14
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porsche fans

iv been looking greatly into these fans and i know many hear have to (i have not read all the post so i hope im not repeating anything).
i was wondering for T1 engine not 4's. how do u do the set up with the horizontal 911 fan? is there a special mount? or wut. and how is the cooling compaired to the upright one? and do u need an external oil cooler like the upright setup?

any info or websites woudl be great
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Old April 30th 2008, 23:24
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I know you said T1 engine and not T4 engine but the only info I ever saw was at Tuna's site about the T4. Look at the bottom of this link. It includes who to contact if you still want to go through with it.

If you want function first, consider getting the DTM for a T1 from Raby's Aircooled Technology.
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If you want function first, ..
Oh please..!

The horizontal set-up for type 1 has been made by Riechert as well, but I have never seen one for myself.
Both pics you posted are type 4 engines if I saw it correctly.
The first pic, please pay attention Oasis, is of a type4 engine that does 11,8 seconds in the quarter mile, and his horizontal Riechert set-up and same engine are in his GSR for over 25 years now!!
That 1/4 mile time has been run WITH that horizontal set-up in place and in a heavy curved window superbeetle (1303 over here) time and time again (DasDrag Day, EBI, etc)!!
So please spare me the B*llsh*t of 'if you want functionality'...
These set-ups are run since the mid-seventies and no engine ever suffered a break down because of it, on the contrary!

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Old May 4th 2008, 13:17
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wow thats cool, so theres a kit
now all i need to know is how much better is it compaired to the porsche up right fan.

any1 know?
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Old May 4th 2008, 13:48
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Nope, there WAS a kit. Due to the lesser interest in the beetle the last decade or so, the kit has not been continued. You would have to find a used one.
Downside is.was also that they were very, very expensive. I don't know what is better as there are many definitions on the elements of 'better' and I won't go into that discussion anymore. Each to his own and I have no commercial interests at all.

I just completed mine set-up. Its on a type 4 engine though:

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Old May 6th 2008, 14:34
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Now now now ... let's not get nasty.

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Both pics you posted are type 4 engines if I saw it correctly.
I said that. Your apology is accepted.

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... and his horizontal Riechert set-up and same engine are in his GSR for over 25 years now!
That's nice. The rest of what you said talks of track time, not of daily driving. I'm guessing there have been improvements in 25 years. If not, it is a wonder this set-up is so scarce.

Personally, I don't like the bend the belt has to make -- especially when the first words out of anybody's mouth of what people should take along on a trip with an air-cooled is a spare belt. That bend looks like an accident waiting to happen.

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So please spare me the B*llsh*t of 'if you want functionality'...
If you want to get all bent out of shape, go right ahead. Too bad. I have enjoyed your posts (this one aside) over the years and I admire your cars. I would rather you disagree by just disagreeing but I am just one person, and a fairly insignificant one at that.

Hopefully, you can dig up a picture of a Type I with a horizontal fan. Surely with 25 years of 100% success, one must exist.

In the meantime, I still like you.
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Old May 8th 2008, 23:14
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well im goign to reasearch more into these fans. and get any info i can find weather it be t4 or t1. cuz i really like the room u have with this set up and u get to have a kill porsche fan. i will keep ya'll posted when i find info
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Nope, there WAS a kit. Due to the lesser interest in the beetle the last decade or so, the kit has not been continued. You would have to find a used one.
Downside is.was also that they were very, very expensive. I don't know what is better as there are many definitions on the elements of 'better' and I won't go into that discussion anymore. Each to his own and I have no commercial interests at all.

I just completed mine set-up. Its on a type 4 engine though:


i was looking the other day in i think la proformance or one of the cf sites that i saw on here and they sell both up right and horizontal kits in cf so im going to invest into that a 5 blade fan and a nice motor in the near future
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Old October 14th 2008, 16:48
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yes we sell the horizontal set up.
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typ4boy how much do they cost????
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I was surfing the net for websites about beetles, so I ran ito this:
http://www.riechertmotorentechnik.de/
If you press deutshe seiten, - luftfilter axial bla bla - axial kuhlluft geblase, you should find pictures, specs, schematics and prices of a Porsche horizontal cooling system designed for type1 engines.
Hope that will help.
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Old October 22nd 2008, 21:50
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I had a Chevy corvair, and it came from the factory with the horizontal fan, just like the pictured setups. Throwing belts is NOT a problem, it doesn't happen with a quality belt.

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Old October 23rd 2008, 04:43
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Guy's,

sorry to intervene in this thread but i think there may have been some mix up. I am new to this site and am only just finding out how much usefull information is out there. Unfortunately i know damn all about Porsche's or their Engines
I think some other guy has got my log on name and is asking all these questions about Porsche fans and stuff.

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typ4boy how much do they cost????
£425 for the kit, this does not include porsche fan /alternator.
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£425 for the kit, this does not include porsche fan /alternator.

Tell us more.

Have any pics of the T1 setup?
Can this system be used on a wider stroker engine?
What does the outer diameter of the 911 fan need to be? will an 11-blade work?
Your/customers experiences with the horizontal setup?
Will you ship to Toronto, Canada?

Would you sponsor a car to showcase this system over here?

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