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Old November 25th 2005, 00:10
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Rear Koni Shocks

Ok so I want to run Koni's in the rear of my 1302 with stock arms, so i did a intranet search and all i can find are the Koni Specials aka Koni Reds 80 2149, now I believe the early 944's used the same basic rear control arms so they should have the same basic rear shocks right? I looked up the 944 Konis and found the yellers 26 1209 for just $10 bucks more each. The price sounds right but if someone knows something I don't please speak up. I got my numbers from ajusa.com

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Old March 12th 2006, 22:28
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i was wondering the same thing. Only difference i can recall is a different bushing ID or bolt difference. Im not positive, but i remember something to that effect.

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Old June 3rd 2006, 14:51
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Any news on the search gentlemen?
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Old June 4th 2006, 17:50
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On one trip to the wrecking yard, I found a pair of factory installed Koni Yellow shocks in a 944. Although they are longer than a Beetle shock, they do work. The big difference is the top bushing. The steel collar in the top bushing is longer, so you may need a longer bolt. I left out all the washers and it was just barely long enough.
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Old July 13th 2006, 15:49
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So I called up Koni today to find out the different between thgeir red "Specials" and the Yellow "Sports" and this is basically what the guy told me:

The only real difference between the Koni 80-2149 and it's yellow counterpart is the stiffness out of the box. He said you can gain the same amount of stiffness from the Reds simply by turning/stiffening the shock by about 3/4 of a turn.

My application is an almost completely stock IRS in a 71 Super, save for the urethane transmounts and CSP Kafer-Kup 3-bar Brace. I told him it was a streeter with a 2ltr T4 motor on 17x7 rims and that I wanted to lower and stiffen the suspension to give it a more sporty look and feel, but with the engine there is a bit more weight in back than a stock bug. He told me the Reds should work just fine, you can adjust the stiffness by turning the shock's body clockwise or counterclockwise to adjust the damper.
Clockwise= firmer
Counterclockwise= softer

He also told me that they haven't sold the yellow counterpart to the 80-2149 in years, but it was available and he could get it if I wanted. So if you do in fact want the Yellow Sports, just call Koni @ 859-586-4100 and work your way to the tech support part of the automated deal (I hate automated phone systems). tell them your application and they should help you.

Funny thing is, after all this research into coil-over conversions and such for my car, even after calling up Koni and asking them a ton of questions, I went with the Bilstein B46-0034's instead. Not really a matter of performance, just cost. I found the Bilsteins for about $60 cheaper than the Konis, but I was this close to getting the Koni Reds:


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Old July 15th 2006, 17:39
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Here's a pic from the Koni.com site, show more detail:



I use Koni yellow, front and rear. The rear is simple, the front is more involved... I don't have to upset my alignment, still a ball-ache compared to the rear:



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