944 N/A Brakes, Master Cylinder Decision

[Ianvwsb73]

Couple of questions, it seems no one is around much to answer them these days?

1st A guy has listed an '87 and '88 N/A 944 that he can part out. Will these parts fit on my Super with the 17mm Kerscher balljoint? I will have the rears too, and will be buying those as well as the Kerscher e-brake adapters.

2nd Does anyone know where to get a blowup diagram of the 944 brake parts? Are there backing plates? I want to see the whole picture of every part so I know how it all goes together and interchanges.

3rd On the master cylinder, has anyone got a working setup going right now? What M/C are you using? It seems there is a lot of theorizing going on, with not too much action. I plan to have a working setup very soon. I plan on using the 944 or 911 M/C. Is the problem people are encountering is the fronts or backs locking up? Would a proportioning valve help this problem? Those seem easy enough to find.

Thanks folks. Peace, -Ian

1st - you want the 83-85 944 brakes, the later brakes have a different hub offset (that can be used but would require wider than stock fenders).

2nd - http://www.pelicanparts.com/944/944_parts/944_83-85.htm

3rd - the majority of people with 944 NA brakes on a Super have used the 944 NA mastercylinder with success.

Originally Posted by Ianvwsb73

it seems no one is around much to answer them these days?

Not to sound rude but that is because these questions have been asked and answered over and over; and over, and over again here. Everything I just posted is in many other threads already.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Superman

3rd - the majority of people with 944 NA brakes on a Super have used the 944 NA mastercylinder with success.

I second that; just installed my early 944 m/c onto the original 1303 holes, which have the m/c tilt a little bit. The 03 plastic grommets to the resevoir fit right in on top.
I just mounted the brakelight switch in the 3rd remaining hole withjout adapter and it works fine and has enough room to sit there. Just mount the switch before you mount the m/c to the bulkhead.
I have now reversed the front-rear brake lines. The 23mm cup is now for the rear. Contrairy to my beliefs and theory, this gives me a better balance now, as in that the rear is now giving more braking action, which before it didn't (front overbraking before).
And trust me: I have driven on our Zandvoort circuit with it (hard!) and it doesn't lock anymore front or rear!

Not to sound rude but that is because these questions have been asked and answered over and over; and over, and over again here. Everything I just posted is in many other threads already.

I agree...

Best regards,
Walter

[LOAF]

Wally do you have any pics of the M/C installation..
Switch, resevoir.. brake lines..

Thanks
Alex

[Wally]

No, sorry, no pics web-based.
But its really like I described. Its very straightforward. Just do it, I would recommend and you'll see for yourself

[70Ghia]

I used the 944 set up from MBT, I have 996 calipers at all four corners, works great.

[LOAF]

Holy Shabang. that thing looks like a spider web..

Wild.. haven't gotten to that point yet.. I finally got some pics of mine so I will post up shortly..

Anyway you can take a few more and add some arrows and text.. Would be very very appreciated..

Thank
Alex

[LOAF]

Wally did you use just one brake light switch?

Was it a 944 or regular beetle switch..

What did you do with the secondary brake light switch..

Made some progress on my set up but a little stumped..

Also does anyone know where I can get a t-fitting assuming I need to run the secondary switch off the rear brake line?

Thanks
ALex

[Wally]

Hey Alex,
Just used the plain beetle one. Just mount the switch before you mount the master cylinder

I don't see the point of two switches, so I just used one. Works just as well

Greetings,
Walter

[LOAF]

Wally, and 70Ghia and all

Did you switch the front and rear brake circuits onto the master cylinder, as was shown in the picture..

From looking at the MBT and the Kersher site, as well as other members, that they are switching the front and rear circuits...

The picture from 70ghia shows some adapter pieces.. anyone know if I can get them locally, and if they do anything besides lengthen the line and add a place for brake switch?

Thanks
Alex