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Old April 1st 2005, 16:20
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why are there no tech articles for supers?

all i see on the tech section is stuff about regular beetles, why not supers? porsche brakes, lowering, nothing for me to use on a super. just wondering
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Old April 1st 2005, 20:43
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Most of the articles will work on a Super(ior) or a standard. The brake tech articles (2ea) look to be done on standards, but to do a super all you need is the 944 spinle/rotors, 73.5 and later control arms/struts and Kerscher ball joints. Then bolt them up.
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Old April 1st 2005, 20:50
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ahh, did not know that. still wouldn't mind seeing a few articles for the "bastard" vw










heh, i konw it's not a bastard, but thats what all my friends with standards call it
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Old April 2nd 2005, 01:21
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with the 944 spindles and the 74+ struts, will porsche 17's clear? or should i go with the maxx struts also
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Old April 2nd 2005, 01:35
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I'm running MaxxStruts.
Around here (GL'ville) the Super(ior) is not thought of as a Bastard. It is the bug of choice for most.
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Old April 4th 2005, 04:37
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I thought it was all going to be simple for an 03 too, but when I researched it isn't just a case of swapping over the spindles and using Kerscher ball joints.

There is also:

+ve camber in the Porsche spindles needs correcting (triple C camber bolts?)

Extending the tie rods

track increase (need late 03 parts which are wider and the brakes add another 10mm per side?) Only early spindles have the speedo cable hole in them.

I think a tech article is needed!

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Old April 4th 2005, 16:54
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I thought it was all going to be simple for an 03 too, but when I researched it isn't just a case of swapping over the spindles and using Kerscher ball joints.

There is also:

+ve camber in the Porsche spindles needs correcting (triple C camber bolts?)

Extending the tie rods

track increase (need late 03 parts which are wider and the brakes add another 10mm per side?) Only early spindles have the speedo cable hole in them.

I think a tech article is needed!

Rich
Don't forget the 944 master cylinder is also needed (for the single pot brakes) so there is a whole lot more fluffing around fitting things up.

I thought Superman was writing a tech article ages ago...

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Old April 5th 2005, 01:26
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he did, but i'd still like to see a full color atricle about it so i can SEE exactly what he's talking about.

well, not so much an article as a thread
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I thought it was all going to be simple for an 03 too, but when I researched it isn't just a case of swapping over the spindles and using Kerscher ball joints.

There is also:

+ve camber in the Porsche spindles needs correcting (triple C camber bolts?)

Extending the tie rods

track increase (need late 03 parts which are wider and the brakes add another 10mm per side?) Only early spindles have the speedo cable hole in them.

I think a tech article is needed!

Rich
Amen to that! I bolted up my 944 N/A brakes last weekend and discovered these problems too. The general word is that N/A brakes will just "bolt-up" when you use the Kerscher ball joints, but there's a lot more to it than that.

Could the track control arm be made adjustable by welding in an adjustable rod in the middle? This would allow you to fine tune the camber pretty easily. If this was done, would there be difficulties with the top of the strut binding or is there some "flex" up there that would allow the track control arm to be lengthened?
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Old July 9th 2005, 02:20
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not to undermind the value of this forums, but superbeetles.com and superbeetlesonly.com have a few tech articles that may be more specific.
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Old July 9th 2005, 10:28
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Hi

I reckon the best way for front super brakes is to use Monoblock calipers as they have radial mounting, then use stock disc brake stubs and have an alloy block made up that bolts to the stock calipers ears, then use a turned down drum or disc hub as your hub for some rotors you can just drop over.

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Old July 9th 2005, 18:33
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Having fitted the 944 NA steering knuckle and dealt with all the issues to make it work I would agree with Steve.

Using the stock steering knuckle has some major benefits, the main one being that you don't alter the steering geometry negatively.

Although the monobloc callipers are much more convienient to make a mounting bloc for I would have a careful look around at what I could use that would allow good front to rear brake balance with the stock master cylinder.

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Old July 10th 2005, 02:07
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Hi

The Boxster monoblocks dont have over the top piston sizes. front are 40 & 36, rears are 30 & 28. They also dont need really thick rotors. Im using Boxster rears on the rear with a stock 19mm M/C

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Old July 10th 2005, 20:35
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I thought Superman was writing a tech article ages ago...
It was going to be printed in VW Trends but they are now defunct. I'm working on getting it printed in Hot VWs magazine.
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Old March 16th 2008, 00:14
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why not just widen the front n rear fenders n be done with it. add adapters on the stock drums
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